10th Official FFR Tournament

[Tim Allen]

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i see how it is

[smartdude1212]

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Obligatory 1.2 I almost forgot sorry folks.

[RB_Spirit]

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i see how it is

Can't let this imposter win! He's not the real Tim Allen.. KILLLL EM

[minhtam2448]

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No! Which one of you put me in pee pee water??!!

[storn42]

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this round man. i should easily be able to improve my score but i keep getting stupid goods i get 0 on the hard stuff and fuck up the easy stuff. why cant this game just love me!!

[Dynam0]

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138 plays. That's it for today

[TC_Halogen]

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dammit

[master q60]

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138 plays. That's it for today

I have 50 in a half hour >.<

absolutely mindblocked at that first burst at around 250, if I hit it I get waaaaay to excited and fuck up something easy

[TC_Halogen]

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nailed it.

[PhantomPuppy]

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that moment where u realize you're in pee water. i don't like it.

[_DJ Vinyl_]

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Well another good file I'm surprised it looks easy, but this is probably all I could AAA to so i will try my best because I want to get vertex vrofl

[ShurykaN]

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I think Masquerade of Shadow brought up a really great point about the format of the tournament. It's really like seven different tournaments where people are placed arbitrarily based upon their level ranks. Do some people possibly belong in different divisions? Maybe. It's also unclear as to how exactly people get assigned to where they are, but this needs to be in place so people don't sandbag or try to cheat the system to get into a division they don't belong to. I think the tournament organizers did a spectacular job placing people in the correct divisions, but there are still problems that arise.

I would be willing to bet credits that the people who get top 8 of their divisions are also the same 8 people who were the best at the start of the tournament. It's great to say that the person who worked the hardest or improved the most is doing the best, but this is more of a fantasy than what actually happens. It takes more than 8 weeks to go from being able to AAA 50s to being able to AAA 70s. On the other hand Masquerade of Shadow, keep in mind that you are playing against other people, and the cutoff for this round may not be as high as you expect! In my opinion the d4 song this week is quite difficult and I expect the cutoff to be around 20g or higher.

However, this bring another point. Every (or almost every) person in a higher division would be able to crush through any division lower than theirs! How is it fair that people worse than them get rewarded more? Every one of them has put in more effort and has more skill to get to where they are today. Everything other than d7 isn't at a truly competitive level. The reason for having divisions in the first place is to allow lower skilled players to still participate and for their efforts to be recognized.

So how do we fix these problems? Like Masquerade of Shadow or other people have suggested, the amount of divisions could be increased (possibly even doubled!) so as to account for more skill levels. This does run into a variety of problems such as not being able to produce enough simfiles and doesn't fix the original problem of people at the higher and lower ends of the division having an easier time or being shafted. Another solution that has been suggested is having divisions play the same file, so as to not flood the game with hard songs and still allow the distinction between skill levels. Personally I don't like this because it makes each division unique to have their own song and it brings more content into the game. I don't think the game is being flooded with hard files, and even if it is the amount of hard files shouldn't affect newer players because they should only play files at their level anyway. I enjoy the super hard files even if I don't have a chance of getting less than 300 goods on them.

Perhaps next tournament you could abolish the idea of placing people into divisions altogether and make it so people can play all 7 songs and work to place themselves into the different divisions. Like the top 32 scores on the hardest song would get d7, and if you are not top 32 there if your score is top 64 for the d6 song you get d6. This would make sandbagging even easier to do and is just a suggestion for a possible different format.

Anyway, TC_Halogen I am really enjoying this tournament and everything you've put into it, thank you for making this possible and all your hard work! Honesty I wouldn't mind if you didn't have preview videos, or at least every round; now that they are an established thing they bring about more qq than hype it seems.

Thank you Masquerade of Shadow for this thought provoking discussion instead of merely whining about how hard and unfair this game is.

[hi19hi19]

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I think everyone should have their own division that way we can all be winners.

[lurker]

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how about next time, we have no divisions
stop fucking whining
this discussion isn't new or engaging
nobody wants to read this shit

[Lambdadelta]

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Seems like a great time to bring back one division elimination tournaments!