TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

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  • TWG Mega Man
    FFR Player
    • Sep 2014
    • 5

    #1951
    Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

    Whoa whoa whoa. I don't like the idea of Pikachu at all after seeing how quick that caught fire.

    For once, I agree with Pit. I got my reaction out of Ike just for keeping my vote on him for a few hours, but it's not like I need it, since he's confirmed red to me already.

    But who isn't confirmed red and needs to get their jaws jabbering is Yoshi.

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    • TWG Link
      FFR Player
      • Sep 2014
      • 0

      #1952
      Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

      Megaman, as there are only two wolves remaining, if Pikachu is a wolf, there's only one wolf that would potentially defend him at all. Granted, a human could defend him too, but it's rather reasonable to suspect him. So I don't think that the time it takes for traction to develop for a lynch is a good inferential indicator for whether a player is a wolf at this point.

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      • TWG Mega Man
        FFR Player
        • Sep 2014
        • 5

        #1953
        Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

        ...Yoshi.

        Yoshi?

        Oh, darn it! This thing is on the fritz again! Dr. Liiiiight!

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        • TWG Mega Man
          FFR Player
          • Sep 2014
          • 5

          #1954
          Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

          Okay, my reptile-blasting algorithms have been recalibrated!

          Yoshi!!

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          • TWG Mega Man
            FFR Player
            • Sep 2014
            • 5

            #1955
            Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

            Originally posted by TWG Link
            Megaman, as there are only two wolves remaining
            Xiz said 1:4 wolf ratio. That's six wolves, and we killed three. I'm not a math scientist, but that's definitely more than two wolves remaining. Maybe even ten!

            Originally posted by TWG Link
            Granted, a human could defend him too, but it's rather reasonable to suspect him. So I don't think that the time it takes for traction to develop for a lynch is a good inferential indicator for whether a player is a wolf at this point.
            I completely disagree with all of this. No matter how few or many wolves there are, voting patterns are ALWAYS your best friend for figuring out who's who in TWG.

            And "rather reasonable" to suspect Pikachu? I don't think so. Here's all the dirt on him I've got:

            - He's been inactive and low-content. While this is suspect, it isn't a very good reason by itself, because otherwise we'd be jumping down Sonic's throat too.
            - Bowser spoofed him green. I don't think this is necessarily evidence of Pikachu as a red either, when you take into account that Bowser also spoofed Ike green. I find it unlikely that Bowser would exclusively spoofread his partners, and Ike looks wayyyyyyyyyyyy slimier to me than Pikachu does.

            That's all I've got for reasons to suspect Pikachu. If I missed something, please say so.

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            • TWG Link
              FFR Player
              • Sep 2014
              • 0

              #1956
              Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

              Having a 1:4 ratio in this game is impossible, as there are 24 players. Ike mentioned a long while ago that Xiz meant to say 1:3 ratio. That's 6 wolves and we've killed 3, so there are 3 remaining.
              So there aren't 2 wolves left and I miscounted in my head, whoops!!!
              I agree with your point about voting patterns, I'm just arguing that since there are so few wolves left, I don't think it's surprising if a lot of people are okay with a particular lynch, since wolves are less likely to steer us away.


              I think Bowser having seered Pikachu green is definitely something to be taken into consideration for suspicion. It's not terribly unlikely for him to have chosen to take a risk in doing so. And although Pikachu's lack of contributions isn't necessarily cause for suspicion, it certainly doesn't help his case for humanity.

              I think that those points are definitely reasonable for suspicion considering Pikachu's been so inactive. It would be better if we had more dirt on him, sure, but you can only find so much from someone be so uncontributive. What more can you expect when he's made like 3 actual posts in this 100 page topic?

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              • TWG Mega Man
                FFR Player
                • Sep 2014
                • 5

                #1957
                Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

                Originally posted by TWG Link
                It would be better if we had more dirt on him, sure, but you can only find so much from someone be so uncontributive. What more can you expect when he's made like 3 actual posts in this 100 page topic?
                Yeah.

                It would be better if we had more dirt on who we lynch.

                So why do you think it's a good lynch?

                Most of the other players in this game heavily interacted with Bowser, and Fox, and you want to lynch Pikachu?

                After watching how many sketchy players hopped on that wagon without a second thought?

                Link, I think I'm taking you out of my "probably town" pile and putting you back into "null" for the time being.

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                • TWG Pit
                  FFR Player
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 1

                  #1958
                  Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

                  Oh so we have like half the wolves to go. waaaaaaaaaah

                  Also, I'm honestly a bit suspicious of Pikachu because the first post he writes after his long absence on the thread was going after an easy target.

                  I dunno man, that's just a bit like not good for you, especially if Ike comes up as town.

                  Though IMO this also looks like there should be at most one wolf in that pair.

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                  • TWG Mega Man
                    FFR Player
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 5

                    #1959
                    Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

                    The fact that the Pikachu train started running faster and not slower after he made another post says to me that the wolves are afraid of him looking human and desperate to get their kill on him while it's still easy.

                    He even voted for the right guy. Wolves are sweating.

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                    • TWG Mega Man
                      FFR Player
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 5

                      #1960
                      Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

                      Hey wolves, are you Pit/Zelda/Ike?

                      No, that's not quite it.

                      But it's close, isn't it?

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                      • TWG Pit
                        FFR Player
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 1

                        #1961
                        Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

                        Ok you know what I'm inclined to trust you mega man because you were right before and I'm easily pocketed

                        But take me out of your list damnit

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                        • TWG Pit
                          FFR Player
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 1

                          #1962
                          Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

                          Zelda and I can't be wolves together
                          How is that even possible

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                          • TWG Charizard
                            FFR Player
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 1

                            #1963
                            Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

                            Originally posted by TWG Mega Man
                            - He's been inactive and low-content. While this is suspect, it isn't a very good reason by itself, because otherwise we'd be jumping down Sonic's throat too.
                            - Bowser spoofed him green. I don't think this is necessarily evidence of Pikachu as a red either, when you take into account that Bowser also spoofed Ike green. I find it unlikely that Bowser would exclusively spoofread his partners, and Ike looks wayyyyyyyyyyyy slimier to me than Pikachu does.
                            Pikachu went cold for several phases, not even lurking the thread until late last night when two wolves were killed. To have him show up now, completely dropping the Pika language and not making any reference to his inactivity whatsoever, is very suspicious. In addition, playing in a way that's impossible to read unless you get a seering and then disappearing right after you get it is something that I suspect a godfather would try to do. There's also Fox's posts defending Pikachu in a similar way to how he defended Bowser:

                            Originally posted by TWG Fox
                            Curious as to why you are pointing pikachu out as dead weight to be voted and ignoring the also dead weight mario, sonic, kirby, shulk, and rosalina.
                            Originally posted by TWG Fox
                            If pikachu is charu...
                            He usually gets killed for his usual posting and hes town, people wanted him dead in the game he roleplayed as a bird and he was town, he was killed for replay in heroes and villains game for roleplay and was town.
                            I dont like this.
                            Originally posted by TWG Fox
                            Why are you suggesting a Mario/Pikachu kitb if you say it'd give us nothing?
                            Originally posted by TWG Fox
                            I was questioning why somebody would pick a certain inactive over another. Certainly there was something going on there as at one point, there was a small wagon. Thats what i would call an easy target, not falcon. Order means a lot in this game (why i brought up ike from your post), so i was curious why people were latching onto pikachu and not really bringing up other inactives including yourself.
                            Originally posted by TWG Fox
                            Reading day 1 in regards to whos on pikachu, my post. This was reponse to yoshis quick vote on pikachu which made 3 votes. Why was this inactive gaining traction over others?

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                            • TWG Little Mac
                              FFR Player
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 0

                              #1964
                              Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

                              Wow that was fast, okay.

                              From what I understand, Pikachu is just one vote away from insta. I don't want to be the one to cut off all of this discussion that could be valuable for later in the game and vote for Pikachu right now.

                              Ike

                              I find Pikachu more suspicious than Ike, but Ike is on the other "side" of Bowser where he was also seered green, so I'll just place a vote there right now.

                              Mega Man, I think Yoshi is a poor direction simply because Yoshi didn't give a damn at all when D2 was nearing the end of the phase. He was at the highest number of votes and was just like "peace I have to go to bed" and didn't give it a second thought.

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                              • TWG Mega Man
                                FFR Player
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 5

                                #1965
                                Re: TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

                                Originally posted by TWG Charizard
                                There's also Fox's posts defending Pikachu in a similar way to how he defended Bowser:
                                Oh wow.

                                And that's not even a complete list.

                                Look how hard he goes after Kirby starts picking him apart:

                                Originally posted by TWG Fox
                                Because im not going to list every player that hasnt done much in every post referrng to inactives.

                                At the time, none of the others were in the thread were pikachu was. Their votes, if any, were joke revenge votes. Pikachus were a vote on an inactive that was never in the thread or acknowledging that she was gone and would be back later. And then a vote on mario, who i think is a wolf.

                                I dont remember being against a mario/pikachu kitb, i recall posting that because of a seeming contradiction in anither players post.

                                And now you are going to apparently expand on another false point. I personally didnt want to lynch pikachu at thAt point because above points and he wasnt the most suspicious to me at the time. I dont remember telling anyone they were stupid for voting pikachu. And again, didnt say i was against a kitb, was pointing out a contradiction in another players post.

                                Pikachus vote on an inactive ratber than joke revenge votes and a vote on mario, paired with people being more suspicious kept me from voting pikachu that phase. If he continues what hes been doing though, i have no problem voting him, save that somebody else is more suspicious to me. Like you.
                                At the end he even covers all his bases. "No problem" voting him, unless someone else is more suspicious, and he finds Kirby more suspicious (rofl Kirby is the seer).

                                Color me convinced.

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