TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

[TWG Ike]

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Villager, Ike, Mega Man and Bowser are my reds. I don't care for how these guys are playing. Serms like each of them is trying to dictate how things should be done. Lynch from my lists, you're dumb for voting ..., shit like that..

dude here's the prophet himself.

[TWG Yoshi]

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I'm curious as to why
A) You thought Peach was the gunsmith. I was just being sarcastic (mainly b/c you gave a read on who you thought a role was) with my post I made after that so I didn't actually share your opinion.
B) Why you decided to share that you thought Peach was the gunsmith. Was it really just for "shits and giggles?"

Because I thought I was dead because I idiotically thought that it was EoD. I had a hunch reading one of Peach's early d1 posts and was just seeing if I actually read it and was getting better or something iunno. So yes, it was really for "shits and giggles."

[TWG Mega Man]

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Wow, for a guy who's made almost 20% of the posts in the thread, Ike sure doesn't have anything worth a damn to say ever!

But I guess someone has to fluff out the thread to make it annoying to read for the humans and cover arguments against Bowser, right?

Almost done my effortpost. Get nervous, reds.

[TWG Samus]

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[TWG Mega Man]

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Miss you already, sexy.

[TWG Pit]

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Okay so food is great.

Here's some things that stand out to me

1) Megaman, you're going a bit too hard in this game. In the end TWG's a game and Bowser really looks offended. Yeah aggression's part of the game, but the moment someone's feelings get hurt you let it go.

You're also being very annoying. What kind of townie would be so certain about wanting to take down someone who claime??That's like...
that's just like something people don't do

2) The results of this phase make sense to me too. Okay, so they roleblocked Peach. IMO a gun is much scarier than a seer.

Then we have the possibility of a medic in the game, or even *gasp* multiple medics. Why would wolves try to off blues when there is a good chance their kill will get blocked?

Kill someone who looks human but also someone who you know won't be protected.

Samus is dead.

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I feel like Mega Man is town though. I just really don't like his play. I mean, I like what he did last EOD to get us to switch our votes,

but what he's doing now isn't helpful at all.

There's five wolves left in the game. If you're so sure about Bowser,

then try to find the other four.

I am pretty darn sure that Ike is actually town too, so the entire "Bowser, Ike, and I" are wolves things is at least 2/3 wrong and the seering that Bowser received makes sense

[TWG Pit]

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Bowser why didn't you seer Mega Man

[TWG Mega Man]

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Okay, so they roleblocked Peach. IMO a gun is much scarier than a seer.

A Gunsmith could give a gun to a wolf, which ends up in -1 human. Even if a human gets the gun, they still have to kill whoever they cardflip, and they have a greater chance of hitting a human.

A Seering provides information 100% of the time, even if used on a human, and only wolves will die after being cardflipped.

Your opinion is objectively wrong.

[TWG Pit]

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A Gunsmith could give a gun to a wolf, which ends up in -1 human.

Not really. The gunsmith knows who got the gun. If a human dies with no explanation, then we know we're dealing with a wolf.

Even if a human gets the gun, they still have to kill whoever they cardflip, and they have a greater chance of hitting a human.

Of course, and we have a greater chance of seering a human too.

A Seering provides information 100% of the time, even if used on a human, and only wolves will die after being cardflipped.

Your opinion is objectively wrong.

Not quite.

Normally I might also agree that a seering is better than a gun, but not this time. You see, a gun would not only confirm Peach as gunsmith, but we as the town also get another kill regardless of who the gun is given to. Why? Because if Peach is a gunsmith and gives someone the gun, then she knows who received the gun.

A gun gives us a pretty much human seering + an extra kill
A seering most likely gives us a human seering

Do you see where I'm coming from now.

[TWG Pit]

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Of course there is also the possibility of multiple gunsmiths, but that really in most cases shouldn't be an issue with clearing Peach.

[TWG Link]

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whoops i completely forgot about this game yesterday

I'm at work right now, so I'll catch up when I return in a few hours.

[TWG Zelda]

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So let me get this straight:

You're 90% sure that Bowser is red.

And you think the best lynch is the guy who outed Bowser.

You're seriously retarded. I'M AGAIN TALKING ABOUT YOU YA DUMB FUCK

[TWG Pit]

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You're seriously retarded. I'M AGAIN TALKING ABOUT YOU YA DUMB FUCK

eh, this is a little much too

[TWG Mega Man]

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Alright. I've been talking in the direction of the wolves for too long. It started as a method to get them slipping up, but now they're just taking advantage of it to make the thread hard to read and denounce me for being cocky. So it's time to stop forcing reactions, and concisely summarize my argument in one place for easy reference.

Why Bowser is Absolutely A Wolf: The Post

1. Before the Claim

Bowser was inactive all of D2, until the very end, when he appeared 2.5h from EOD, 10 minutes after becoming the top lynch target, with 5 votes. This is a situation that a real blue should be sweating in. He wasn't - he was confident about not dying. And immediately after stating his confidence in not dying, a huge swing of votes come out and take him out of the number one spot... for a second.

2. The Claim

But it wasn't enough. Enough humans saw something was up, and began voting Bowser, that his buddy Ike starts panicking and pushing him to fakeclaim.

So he puts out this rushed hunk of junk, where he states that he seered Pikachu "on Day 1" and that he came back "green". Upon Samus asking him to look and tell us exactly what the message said, Bowser states his message says "green/town". This is HUGE. "Green/town" cannot be how Xiz would word his message when the Cop can only see town or anti-town, and Seers don't happen during the day. He was clearly redacting himself to make it look less like he fucked up. No real Seer would misspeak so direly, and fail to correct himself until other people pointed it out.

3. On the Block, Still Won't Talk

So now it's N3, and Bowser states repeatedly that he's scared about dying. Which is normal for a Seer who has claimed to the thread - it could be your last chance to get your input into the game!

So why, then, does he... not bother? Even after repeated invitations, even after saying this absolutely INSANE bit about not believing Peach's claim super late after she made it, he ducks out of the thread and refuses to explain what's going on in his head. It's not like he didn't have time - he checked in to tell us that he was playing five hours of video games, after all. This is not how a Seer worried about dying acts!

4. The Reds' Move

So then D3 happens, and with it, any tiny doubt left in my mind was erased. Neither of the blue claims are attacked, but instead, one of our precious few active humans. The Gunsmith is roleblocked, and Bowser seers Ike and it comes back green. WHAT?

No roleblocker in his right mind would block a Gunsmith over a Seer. The Gunsmith could give a gun to the wolves and give them a free human kill, the Gunsmith could give a gun to the humans and they could kill a human anyway. A Seering lets you cardflip without killing. It's objectively better. There's clearly more utility in blocking the Seer over the Gunsmith.

The only way this makes sense is if only Peach's claim is legitimate. Bowser wanted an excuse to "clear" his wolf buddy Ike, and he didn't want Peach to give a gun out and give legitimacy to her claim, especially after he said he didn't believe her. Reds don't make fakeclaims out of nowhere - bringing the spotlight onto yourself when it's not on you already is bad wolf play. Peach is unlikely to be fakeclaiming.

And after providing his Seering, Bowser returns to playing video games without bothering to participate in the game once again. He's ducking out because he's given up. He knows I've got him, and he doesn't want to put effort into a lost cause.

There is no way all of this is coincidence. I am certain Bowser is a wolf.

I know lynching a blue claim a little scary, but the wolf knows that! That's why he fakeclaims! You're getting played! Don't let reds blow up the fear of being wrong in your mind to get away from making the best play - it is ALWAYS best to kill your best lead, and Bowser is ours.

Coming up next: Why Ike is Absolutely A Wolf!

[TWG Pit]

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whatever
bowser

I wanna do what he wants so we can move on

It's mostly frustration and curiosity