TWG CXXIV: Super Smash Brothers

[TWG Mega Man]

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shut the fuck up about what you "expect" or "think" will happen. That shit can wait until the wolves possibly make a mistake

Funny, I hesitated about making that post for this reason.

But you were pratting on about how leaving a clear red alive is a "significant gain" for the humans, and nobody else was acknowledging the existence of the only actual known blue player. There really wasn't a delicate way to tell you why you're wrong without getting into it.

But then I thought, you know what? I'm feeling good about our position right now, so hell, why not!

[TWG Ike]

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I never talked about leaving Bowser alive/killing him in the night. If he lives past tonight we shouldn't lynch him, which somewhat forces the wolves hand rather than helps them.

Think next time you hit the reply button. What I did and what you were doing are actually two opposites.

[TWG Mega Man]

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wolf:
Bowser

solid wolf:
Megaman

So how does it click in your head for both me and Bowser to be wolves?

If both of us are red I would be the worst wolf partner on the planet.

[TWG Ike]

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So how does it click in your head for both me and Bowser to be wolves?

If both of us are red I would be the worst wolf partner on the planet.

I agree that you're probably not together but earlier in the post they said that they feel like there's one between you two, which is a valid possibility

[TWG Mega Man]

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I never talked about leaving Bowser alive/killing him in the night.

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You weren't talking about leaving Bowser alive?

I'll admit that you have balls but until we're at the day before we can lose there's no point to lynching Bowser at all b/c either way we get more information the longer he is alive, regardless of alignment.

ok hopefully that's enough on Bowser for now I'll shut up about how we're not touching him for a while now

Because I could have sworn you were talking about leaving Bowser alive.

My reply was indeed about the opposite of keeping Bowser alive, because killing reds is the goal of the game and all.

/killing him in the night.

If he lives past tonight

Hahaha! I know you said you were hoping for the wolves to make a mistake, but I doubt they'll going to wolf one of their own!

[TWG Ike]

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You weren't talking about leaving Bowser alive?

I said "in the night" which modifies "leaving bowser alive." I never discussed the possible benefits for the wolves to either leave him alive/kill him in the night.

[TWG Ike]

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well I guess that's not entirely true as I probably implied it/mentioned scenarios where they would be forced to kill him.

Basically I was pissed off that people were discussing optimal roleblock targets and I was annoyed you accused me of doing one and the same

[TWG Mega Man]

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I wouldn't mind dying too much if Peach actually gives someone a gun tonight.

Or killed. Don't tunnel me because you're upset; look at it rationally.

Wow, our "Cop" sure is worried about dying tonight! I can't wait for them to give their reads list, since it might be their last chance and all!

Just a heads up, I'll be playing tourney files tonight so if I miss the start of the day, I'm not sorry.

Oh.

I am honestly disappointed in how little efforts humans are putting into this game. Bowser's posts from the moment he returned from his inactivity to the present are utterly damning and I'm amazed nobody but me sees it.

Seriously, what kind of blue who thinks it might be his last phase in the game says shit like this:

But I have a gut feeling that she won't, because she's not actually a gunsmith.

And then leaves the thread without explaining the reasoning for his extreme, dissenting opinion?

Hint: A wolf who doesn't have the time to put into concocting fake reasoning that can withstand scrutiny.

[TWG Mega Man]

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I shouldn't say "sees it". I think a lot of people see it, and a few people have even said they agree with it. But even the people who agree with it aren't talking about it, even though it's a development that blows this game wide open.

[TWG Ike]

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Mega Man
I want you to do something
I want you to go to a magical land
Where you are wrong
And we lynch Bowser
What happens then?

[TWG Mega Man]

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Ike spouts a pretty nice steaming pile about what we could do about leaving Bowser alive, trying to scare us into thinking OMG WHAT IF BOWSER REALLY IS THE COP?

I invite you to consider: what if Mega Man is right about Bowser?

Because this here's what I think D3 could be like:

- Medic guards Peach. Our Gunsmith stays alive.
- Peach gives me a gun, and I use it to shoot Bowser in his wolf face.
- Bowser cardflips red.
- The real Cop can now focus on the other glaring reds who were present in the insane vote swing at the end of D2.
- Game becomes a breeze for humanity.

Wow, that sounds pretty good!

BUT NAHHHHHHH, IKE'S PLAN IS CLEARLY BETTER. LET'S LEAVE BOWSER ALIVE SO HE CAN GIVE US GOOFY FAKE SEERING RESULTS. THAT'LL RESULT IN WAY MORE INFORMATION FLOW.

[TWG Ike]

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I swear if Peach gives you a gun I'm probably gonna quit forum TWG for life

[TWG Ike]

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BUT NAHHHHHHH, IKE'S PLAN IS CLEARLY BETTER. LET'S LEAVE BOWSER ALIVE SO HE CAN GIVE US GOOFY FAKE SEERING RESULTS. THAT'LL RESULT IN WAY MORE INFORMATION FLOW.

it does give information because I'm not saying we're never ever under any circumstances going to lynch him.
I'm probably just going to stop arguing with you b/c you don't see my side of the argument at all.
Look, if we kill Bowser AND he flips red then yes, we will get info. But we don't have to do that now. The risk is also too great. In any case, I figured I would stop talking about this a long time ago but w/e. I tried.

[TWG Ike]

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and yes killing the possible cop should scare people.

[TWG Mega Man]

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Mega Man
I want you to do something
I want you to go to a magical land
Where you are wrong

Good point, Ike! My plan sounds really good on paper like that, but what if I'm wrong?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Well, if we follow my plan, and this is somehow a universe where Bowser is a Cop who makes the posts he has been, this is what it looks like:

- The Cop dies, but the Gunsmith stays alive.
- I am the D3 instalynch, flip green, and look like an idiot.
- The Medic continues guarding the Gunsmith and maybe if we kill the Wolf Roleblocker we'll get some vigis later.
- Humans can stop focussing on Mega Man and Bowser, who is a human in this universe for some reason, and continue to have a solid shot at winning the game.

Oh wow that doesn't sound too bad either, huh?