TWG CXX: Villains United

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[TWG Hades]

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Do you believe hook is more suspicious than auto?

If you believe they are equally suspicious, then wouldn't picking the one that, if you were actually right, necessarily tells you two kills (in your opinion) be the better option? Why would you prioritize the one that would give you information tomorrow if you happened to be wrong? Do you have a latent expectation that you are going to make the wrong decision and that is influencing your decision making?

If it is the case that you believe one is actually more suspicious than the other and that influences your preferences, then why did you feel the need to arbitrarily divide things up in that fashion?

I think they are equally suspicious. I am more sure about them than I am about anyone else at this point, but when the best lead is not a sure thing, why not make sure that there is an upside no matter what the outcome?

Do you have the expectation that every decision that you make will be right at the very beginning of Day Two? I am overwhelmingly sure of lynch decisions maybe 15% of the time, and even then, sometimes I end up being wrong.

Does acknowledging this make me a bad TWG player?

[TWG Captain Hook]

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I really don't understand why people are still focusing so heavily on me not wanting to contribute to the early roleplay of the game. I had nothing of value to post at the time and really don't know my character well enough to get into the roleplay. I never saw Peter Pan.

Kinda thought I posted a more vocal defense of Hans, so I forgive you for missing that one post. I was focused on trying to get Hook lynched, and in being forcused on that I guess I didn't defend Hans to the thread.

It's still pretty obvious from my fervor in going after Hook that I thought Hook was the better lynch. Hell Hook thought hans was a bad ynch.

I still thought it was a bad lynch in the end but seeing as it was going to be him or me I had to move my vote to try and live another day. I really feel like people are focusing too much attention on some of the wrong things right now. There are still a lot of people in this game.

I've been out most of today so I have a little catching up to do. I really don't see this whole thing with auto and myself. But I need to read everything that's been written about it still, I just saw the initial stuff earlier today.

[TWG Maleficent]

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The reality is Hans did a piss poor job defending himself and his play was very wolfy.

Honestly, I don't think many people bothered to read past the shit-posting. Much like you (!!!), they were too busy skimming. There was a defense hidden in there that I saw (his Q&A with Hades, for starters), but I wasn't going to push it further when there was a fair amount of heat on me.

Facilier voted Hades
Gaston voted Jafar
Ursela voted Gaston
tigger aka Shere Khan didnt vote

Shere Khan just strikes me as an asshole, which is role-neutral.
Ursula's pretty active, which is grounds for a serious study of her interactions. However, I want to leave her in. Her activity yesterday makes me think she'll show up again today to provide more information, unlike...
Facilier and Gaston. Both of them made votes without any reasoning and made (seemingly) empty promises to study the thread more intently. I say they're definitely potential lynch targets. Let's throw in Hook from the Hook vs. Auto discussion as well: like I said before, I don't think Auto would kill Shan Yu due to the latter tunneling him at first. I think he'd pick a similar target without the same baggage, like Dr. Facilier or, I don't know, Darla.

[TWG Syndrome]

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I don't think Auto would kill Shan Yu due to the latter tunneling him at first.

If Auto is a hero, he wouldn't be the only one able to kill people. There isn't just one hero...

[TWG Maleficent]

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I was going to respond to that, but then I realized Shan Yu was actually the best lynch target of all the people The Queen listed regardless of who the heroes actually are (besides maybe Ursula). Welp.

[TWG Gaston]

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... Facilier and Gaston. Both of them made votes without any reasoning and made (seemingly) empty promises to study the thread more intently. I say they're definitely potential lynch targets. Let's throw in Hook from the Hook vs. Auto discussion as well: like I said before, I don't think Auto would kill Shan Yu due to the latter tunneling him at first. I think he'd pick a similar target without the same baggage, like Dr. Facilier or, I don't know, Darla.

Study study study

[TWG Yzma]

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Study study study

Obvious attempt to save face
Regardless
we're all curious about what you have to say Gaston

[TWG Gaston]

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Also, Shan Yu was just a safe night kill. I don't think there's a reason behind it. I think the wolves are simply guessing for power roles since no one has given a trace of having one yet, it's the best they can do. I think looking at his demise during the night is a bit of a waste. I think the focus should be more upon those conversing now. The past few TWG all the Wolves have always been right in plain sight attempting to guide the game in their favor (what they should do tbh if you look at how Manti wolves.)

tldr; one of the wolves is probably one of you who is keeping in the discussion heavily.

That said I saw this and feel the need to address it for your sake.

I'm with Yzma, though, I would like to hear from and look at Gaston at the moment. What basis did you have for yesterday's random voting patterns? Would you like to follow up on this post at all? I imagine you're caught up by now; who are your current suspicions? Why didn't you vote at EoD at all?

The pattern was literally just drawing out the UTR players. It was about trying to get a slight reaction of any sort. Those on day one who freak out over a random vote are usually noob wolves, or humans who hate being lynched day one. I was fishing around while drawing out UTR. As to a suspect, I could be really generic and say you know Hook or Auto, but as I said earlier I think our discussion needs to shift off that little lover's quarrel and focus around the posts made by everyone else and see if there's any value in those. If that fails, move on from that.

[TWG Gaston]

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And the above post was written before refreshing.

[TWG Yzma]

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I agree with both points independently: namely, that noob wolves could be panicked by those votes, and that there is a really vocal wolf among us.

What doesn't sit right with me now is how you presented it: first of all, you are trying to divert attention towards the vocal ones instead of towards the noob wolves you said you were trying to find. This is a 180 from Day 1 to Day 2: which do you think is a priority? Which are you more interested in finding? Your words don't match your actions.

This repeats in your final paragraph. Did anything in particular change your mind about strategy? First you wanted to find the weak wolves. Now you're trying to divert the attention from possible weak wolves and direct it towards vocal wolves?

I'm not trying to enforce a dichotomy here, but if you really believe that there's a vocal wolf here, you should have put some thought into it --- who are your suspects?

[TWG Yzma]

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(By "possible weak wolves", I meant Hook and Auto)

[TWG The Queen]

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hey guys, i misspelled Ursula earlier im sooooo embarrassed

[TWG The Queen]

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way too many ppl hanging onto their votes halfway thru day, voting patterns are fckin crucial can u vote already

[TWG The Queen]

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Hades, sheeping here tbh but its important to apply pressure somewhere