Freedom of Speech in Chit Chat

[Wafles]

Re: Freedom of Speech in Chit Chat

someone actually wants to talk about the bible on the FFR forum

what...

I mean what the hell did you expect LOL

[Charu]

Re: Freedom of Speech in Chit Chat

Expected you to share some folklore of course. Got any to share?

Here's one.

I saw the legendary Bigfoot on a camping trip years ago. I couldn't get a really good look, but I'm certain it was the infamous Bigfoot! I heard it grunt! A very aggressive grunt at that.

If only I had a shitty camera with me to make a blurry picture to show off my middle school friends.

[Vendetta21]

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I am actually curious if FFR is capable of being mostly polite on both ends

no

[SCWolf]

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if you're going to sit here and talk about freedom of speech issues (on an online forum for a random flash game), then you should not cry foul when incendiary, trollish remarks get made. others have the right to be hecklers and (the online version of) picketers as much as you do to discuss bible verses.

This is pretty much what I was thinking immediately after reading the OP.

[qqwref]

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I don't think you understand what "Freedom of Speech" means. A lot of Americans don't.

It means you can say whatever you want, and will not be prosecuted by the administration for what you say (although you may still be liable for direct negative consequences of what you say, such as damage to people or property after you yell "Fire"). That's what you have in the US, and arguably it's what you have on FFR. Not all websites have this, but then, they're not guaranteed to.

Freedom of speech does NOT mean you have the right to not be offended, or to not be criticized. In fact, if we forced everyone to agree with you or to be nice, that would be censoring what they have to say. You are not the only one who gets to be free. If you want a place where you can post controversial things and be agreed with, I recommend somewhere other than FFR.

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

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I agree that everyone should have freedom of speech in FFR. However, I also believe that forum moderators are justified in closing threads if the original post and/or subsequent posts have no merit to a constructive discussion. You can't control what people are going to say. There will almost always be posts that have no merit, especially when the topic at hand is controversial.

We don't have freedom of speech in FFR because the moderators and administrators have all of the power to decide which threads will be closed and/or deleted, among other administrative powers. Unfortunately, we don't have any assurance that FFR posters will respond constructively to a controversial thread.

However, I personally believe that not only moderators and administrators, but the FFR community should be reactive, and not proactive. Even if the subject is controversial, it won't help the community become any more receptive to controversial issues if people assume the thread will have no merit and become part of the problem. Please consider contributing to controversial threads even if you think the thread will have no merit or be locked.

[Tokzic]

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That's what you have in the US, and arguably it's what you have on FFR.

actually private organizations that you join voluntarily don't have the constitution apply to them and they can have whatever wacky rules they feel like having

if the admin decide to be totalitarian and censor us heavily it's basically tough shit because this is an internet website and not american public property

[adlp]

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pretty sure by freedom of speech he means posting a topic in CC that was locked when I didn't necessarily break any rules (even tho it fits better in another subforum) but you cant blame him because other subforums are mostly dead

so

[Izzy]

Re: Freedom of Speech in Chit Chat

controversial

You couldn't be more wrong.

[Tokzic]

Re: Freedom of Speech in Chit Chat

pretty sure by freedom of speech he means posting a topic in CC that was locked when I didn't necessarily break any rules (even tho it fits better in another subforum) but you cant blame him because other subforums are mostly dead

so

yeah i mean don't get me wrong i don't think threads should be locked ever

but it's also not like you have any inherent right to talk about whatever you want unhindered on a privately owned website

[Elmerz]

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You couldn't be more wrong.

So what you're saying is that you disagreeing or in a general sense pushing your religious opinion on others is not "giving rise or likely to give rise to public disagreement"? It seems like that's already happening and I'd have to agree with Drizzle 100% of the way.

[drizzleRomanceGirl]

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You couldn't be more wrong.

At the very least, Arkuski and adlp have stated that the bible's text is be a subject that should be discussed freely and seriously, and I agree with them. These beliefs go against the posters of FFR who sent remarks without merit to the original topic, so the bible study is at least a little controversial.

[Tokzic]

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praise be to one winged angel, das game manager fuhrer

his impeccable judgment will protect our innocent eyes from taking offense from edgy religion debates and images with jesus in them

[Izzy]

Re: Freedom of Speech in Chit Chat

I don't have a religion to push on people so I don't know what you are talking about.

People don't not want to talk about things because they are "controversial". That means nothing here. We would talk about killing and eating babies for food if there was some merit to it. Nobody wants to talk about religion because it is stupid and uninteresting.

[Tokzic]

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Nobody wants to talk about religion because it is stupid and uninteresting.

pretty sure i saw like three people attempting to engage the subject seriously