SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

[Wafles]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

I understand D7 is the highest rated skillcap but like, what actually defines the divisions in terms of skill? Is there some milestone requirement that I can't find?

[rCaliberGX]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

I think d4u7211 is out of rcalibergx league. No offense.

i already knew that lol, it was just that he wanted to be rivals with me a few months back after he AA'd WLL oni. i can barely get a mid A on it

@staiain: D7 is out of my reach, and will be for a while. i need to improve my accuracy drastically if i want to even get close.

[EzExZeRo7497]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

I understand D7 is the highest rated skillcap but like, what actually defines the divisions in terms of skill? Is there some milestone requirement that I can't find?

We Luv Lama 1.1 AA is probably a good D7 milestone.

Speed-wise I'd say Disregard 1.1 or something along that caliber should be D7.

The main reason why we don't differentiate players into different divisions is because there's so many skills to test anyway. Also little to no players are all-rounded (The only person that I can think of off the top of my head is Isaac), most players have skills that are far weaker than their best one. Take Gundam-Dude for example, accuracy is top tier (mid D7) but speed isn't really up to par when it comes to his accuracy. Do you put him in mid D7 because of his accuracy or do you put him in some division lower because he has skills that are much weaker?

but ya personally we're all DSucks

[ilikexd]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

I understand D7 is the highest rated skillcap but like, what actually defines the divisions in terms of skill? Is there some milestone requirement that I can't find?

A Prelude to Insanity AA is probably a good D7 milestone.

[EzExZeRo7497]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

We Luv Lama 1.1 AA is probably a good D7 milestone.

Speed-wise I'd say Disregard 1.1 or something along that caliber should be D7.

The main reason why we don't differentiate players into different divisions is because there's so many skills to test anyway. Also little to no players are all-rounded (The only person that I can think of off the top of my head is Isaac), most players have skills that are far weaker than their best one. Take Gundam-Dude for example, accuracy is top tier (mid D7) but speed isn't really up to par when it comes to his accuracy. Do you put him in mid D7 because of his accuracy or do you put him in some division lower because he has skills that are much weaker?

but ya personally we're all DSucks

bp'd

anyway


also i've been going full emo for the past few days and I just plowed through looking at the thread and goddamn bender you're getting good

everyone got pretty good though

[ilikexd]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

[scottiena]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

If I got stamina...


AA

[EzExZeRo7497]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

Eramaan Viimeinen AA is really good, nice job

[xNiX]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

I think you should not worry about your division placement so much. It makes the game more fun and you can lean on fixing your weaknesses.

[Wafles]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

Eh, I don't really care what division I'm in, but I just didn't know how they were defined.

Having long term goals isn't necessarily a bad thing either.

[Dynam0]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

Divisions are an FFR thing, since when do we separate SM players into tiers?

[Jimmymi1]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

Divisions are an FFR thing, since when do we separate SM players into tiers?

We should make our own division system. Lets get creative!

[Gundam-Dude]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

There are too many factors in SM that make it difficult to gauge anyone's skill level accurately. FFR has the luxury in which the timing window scale is much more lenient and there aren't anything like holds, xmod gimmicks, mines, rolls, etc. to greatly increase difficulty—it's easier to gauge FFR skill in the sense that people just need the ability to combo really well with accuracy. Also the fact that there are global rankings for every file in-game, where as SM lacks that, making it even more difficult to place and rank scores accordingly.

You'll also get situations in which where one player is so much faster than the other, but has complete trash accuracy in comparison—how do you even slap an arbitrary division number in this case? Unless there are certain benchmarks that are established on specific files or some shit, there's absolutely no way to gauge SM skill level accurately.

In a world where SM did have some sort of global ranking system, I could see it working only if rate mods on SM had score multipliers (similar to Doubletime, Hardrock, Hidden, Flashlight, etc. on osu!) working in conjunction to how well you can combo with accuracy. Then maybe you'll have a better way to slap arbitrary division numbers on your foreheads.

[Wafles]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

I don't think division tiers make sense, even necesarily in the context of FFR.

Still though, skill is pretty relative and the only thing I really was curious about is a general idea of how good a "D7" player is.

We should make our own division system. Lets get creative!

Shibe tier wow

[MinaciousGrace]

Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~

there arent really any official divisions for sm but it has long since been common practice to refer to players as being x tiers/divisions of skills above/below relative to other players for a given skillset