The Fitness Thread

[Senip]

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Oh comeon man, that's not even close to realistic for him :P. You said you had like 3 years of previous lifting experience which is even way more than I had lmao

yeah I know, but he'll still have ridiculous results even if hes not jacked.

[Wayward Vagabond]

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dude you're tea bagging the floor

[Senip]

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That's the point brah, squats arent for going down half an inch.

[Reincarnate]

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Yeah I've seen a thousand videos like that but somehow I'm not getting the motion right. I don't know if it's because I don't have enough strength to literally do the motion without falling over or because I'm just not used to moving in that way. Can't tell how much to go back vs. how much to go down, how to bend in the right places at the right time, etc. It just comes off as this awkward dip.

[Senip]

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You need to practice in the mirror.

[Reincarnate]

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I do

Because I'm out of shape, I can't tell if I am moving the same way as those in the videos

[Wayward Vagabond]

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That's the point brah, squats arent for going down half an inch.

i always thought squats were up until thigh and shin made a 90 degree angle lol

[Reach]

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You don't have to go down nearly that deep if you don't want to.

I never go past parallel. If you teabag like Senip does, you'll smash your glutes and hamstrings, but it's not necessary by any means, especially for you as a beginner (if you're concerned about those muscles, they're hit very hard by incline leg press).

I feel like falling over if I go that deep. That and 4 days of sore ass. I go to parallel and keep the tension on the quads (I'm actually not convinced you even need to go to parallel to smash your quads, but alas I do anyway).


And honestly, if it's that much of a problem, I'd forget about them for now and come back to them in a couple months or something. It's not that serious. There are plenty of people that *never*, I repeat *never* squat, because they can't, that have incredible legs. It's not by any means necessary. A bodybuilder I know exclusively uses the hacksquat machine instead, actually, with great success. It's a great exercise, but if you'd rather spend your time doing something else I can't really fault you on that.

IMO it's more important you find exercises you actually enjoy doing.

[Senip]

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I know Dorian Yates, when he was winning Olympias, used only hack squats and leg press. But he built his base on squats. I think squats are super important, honestly, even for new people.

[Reincarnate]

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What I've read is that it's a good idea to go past parallel because you work out both the hamstrings and quads at the same time. Otherwise, if you only develop the quads, muscle imbalance issues may cause knee problems later (mainly if you use heavier weight).

Then again, I don't claim to know much about this, and I see no reason why one couldn't just do parallel squats and then work out the hamstrings with something else (in my case, stiff-legged deadlifts would probably help pick up the slack).

I'm coming real close to canceling my gym membership and just sticking with my in-house gym, but I need to make a final case for squats either way. If I can do them, I want to start doing them. But if I absolutely cannot get the form down properly, I'm just wasting money.

[Wayward Vagabond]

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So I was practicing squats yesterday for half an hour. Today my legs feel like jelly and I have to keep climing up and down stairs at work. Ghey

[Reincarnate]

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Even up the stairs?

For me, going *down* stairs was absolute hell, lol. Even slight downward-sloping creases in concrete were enough to make my knees buckle hardcore.

[Senip]

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Nothing I'm going to say to you is going to change your mind. Anything that you want badly enough, you'll accomplish: the question is, how badly do you want to do it? This takes years dude, it's not going to be a one day thing. You have to practice your ass off, literally, to get anywhere in life, and this is no different. It sounds to me like you're making excuses. "Oh, I can't do squats, so I guess I dont have to go to this gym!" You start at the bottom and you move weight until you reach the top, there is nobody out there that starts with perfect form.

[Wayward Vagabond]

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Even up the stairs?

For me, going *down* stairs was absolute hell, lol. Even slight downward-sloping creases in concrete were enough to make my knees buckle hardcore.

yeah going either up or down is killing me

[kmay]

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he says he has no muscle, he shouldn't be using at weight with his squats. he is 220 pounds. thats plenty.