I don't think being annoyed about the entire system makes you stupid, I think it makes you an individual for having an opinion. My entire life I have seen people get screwed over our primitive ways. I don't have the answers, but I sure as hell know we are not doing things right. It doesn't take a genius to realize that we are ****ing up the world around us. At least we have a defense budget of world conquest proportions. Our tax dollars are a joke and everything is designed to keep money going to the rich and it's so hard to get out of a poor lifestyle. None of these politicians give a crap in my opinion so why should I? Sure though, lets continue making profit over war and then labeling people that don't agree as idiots or unpatriotic
Don't mean to come off harsh, but anybody who is not voting because of the "my vote doesn't matter" excuse, is an idiot.
Yes, I'm voting and I will continue to vote as long as I have this right.
george carlin explains it best
Originally posted by top
what the hell happened to alden
i remember a time when he wuz kewl
keep ur head up or down whatevers most comfortable idk but ya i repsect u cuz u respect others and we all have opinions to share, so respect one another and keep being urself or someone else watever
Originally posted by ~Tao of Dossar
I never self-reflect, and therefore, I have no negative thoughts about myself. However I am also aware about my successes.
No, because I haven't been a resident of Arizona long enough to qualify for voter registration. this is due to the fact that my time living in Arizona stopped after I joined the Navy, but I'm still considered a resident of that state. So I'm stuck in limbo.
I absolutely can't wait to vote! My girlfriend and I stay very current in our states politics and we vote every time there's an opportunity. To have the chance to put in our vote for our entire country's next president is very exciting and important to us.
The only person is worthy of being called an idiot in this case is the one who didn't try to provide arguments for his opinion. Such a thing has no merit. Anyone can simply restate his opinion 1000 times and pretend he's right.
I won't say anything else in case you were trolling. In the case that you weren't, I hope you've realised you should had added more nuance.
What about an "Eh, Iunno" option? A "maybe"? An "I'm not sure yet"?
Also why so many possible reasons for "No" yet only the one "Yes"? Is it blindly assumed that everyone who votes does so for the exact same reason?
I wonder how many write-in votes that Kony person gets because of idiots who saw the "Kony 2012" stickers/signs and thought he was running for President?
But if EVERYONE said their vote didn't matter and they didn't vote...
Then we would probably have a better system in place than voting, because this system is terrible. It would be great if officials were elected based on competency instead of money and speeches.
Then we would probably have a better system in place than voting, because this system is terrible. It would be great if officials were elected based on competency instead of money and speeches.
Thank you!
All my virtual +1's to this.
And/or if you had to pass some very basic intelligence and/or civics test in order to vote, and you had to pass the new test every election year. Something along the lines of you can do basic math, have basic reading comprehension down, don't outright fail simple logic, and have at least minimal understanding of US history and government.
The government could even offer free classes to teach people about any of these things, for disadvantaged people who wish to take some sort of initiative.
And/or if you had to pass some very basic intelligence and/or civics test in order to vote, and you had to pass the new test every election year. Something along the lines of you can do basic math, have basic reading comprehension down, don't outright fail simple logic, and have at least minimal understanding of US history and government.
The government could even offer free classes to teach people about any of these things, for disadvantaged people who wish to take some sort of initiative.
I wonder how much it would help?
I sympathize with your logic; people who vote shouldn't be dummies. But making people take tests before they can vote is exactly what southern states did in the 19th century to prevent as many underprivileged blacks and whites from voting, so it's like taking a step back in civil rights.
Also, immigrants seeking citizenship have to pass a difficult test based on our nations history and government. I wouldn't be surprised if a new citizen who passed that test knew more about all this than most of us did. Honestly, I wish I were more familiar with our country's history and legislation, there's a lot to know and much that I don't know.
But I do agree, it would be nice if everyone took greater interest in getting out there and learning more.
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And/or if you had to pass some very basic intelligence and/or civics test in order to vote, and you had to pass the new test every election year. Something along the lines of you can do basic math, have basic reading comprehension down, don't outright fail simple logic, and have at least minimal understanding of US history and government.
The government could even offer free classes to teach people about any of these things, for disadvantaged people who wish to take some sort of initiative.
I don't think I like this idea. Virtually no one in the U.S. would fail such a test except those who didn't get an education past very early years. The vast majority of kids who either drop out or get kicked out of school come from lower class families and the like. Weeding people out of voting based largely on socioeconomic class seems like a big step in the wrong direction.
Wouldn't it be nice if public schooling were more effective? I believe that would have a much more positive influence on the country's political makeup.
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