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  • Senip
    Forum User
    • Feb 2008
    • 611

    #31
    Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

    http://gbatemp.net/topic/219632-ds-rpg-list/

    http://www.digitpress.com/forum/show...P-%28rpgpsp%29 too.

    So far my favorites have been the Dragon Quest remakes and 9, Radiant Historia, World Ends with You, Black Sigil (basically a chrono trigger clone, but I like it), and a few others (SUIKODEN F YEAH).

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    • TheSaxRunner05
      The Doctor
      • Apr 2006
      • 6144

      #32
      Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

      ^

      He's a backwards penis


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      • Arntonach
        Owlbears Rock!
        • Mar 2012
        • 2494

        #33
        Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

        Originally posted by Kibblre
        Has anyone mentioned day 1 DLC yet? **** that shit, no excuse for that.
        There is. While most of the time it's also available as a pre-order bonus, the main driving point behind day one DLC is used game sales. Since game companies get no share from the sale of a used game, it somewhat robs a sale from them. So in order to get something from them, day one DLC will force the customer to shell out some money to the company.
        pack of hard stuffs

        pack of my stuffs

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        • Kibblre
          Caelondia Represent
          • Jul 2004
          • 1984

          #34
          Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

          Originally posted by Arntonach
          There is. While most of the time it's also available as a pre-order bonus, the main driving point behind day one DLC is used game sales. Since game companies get no share from the sale of a used game, it somewhat robs a sale from them. So in order to get something from them, day one DLC will force the customer to shell out some money to the company.
          More money isn't an acceptable excuse for day one DLC.

          Also, day one DLC for effects virtual selling as well (Steam). It's not like I can buy a used game virtually. In that case, day one DLC is a giant middle finger to me.
          Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.

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          • Pseudo Enigma
            ごめんなさい (/ω\)
            • Aug 2012
            • 2290

            #35
            Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

            Originally posted by Senip
            http://gbatemp.net/topic/219632-ds-rpg-list/

            http://www.digitpress.com/forum/show...P-%28rpgpsp%29 too.

            So far my favorites have been the Dragon Quest remakes and 9, Radiant Historia, World Ends with You, Black Sigil (basically a chrono trigger clone, but I like it), and a few others (SUIKODEN F YEAH).
            I'm a really low budget (really really realllllllllly low) gamer so I haven't been able to play all the ones I've wanted to try out.

            Children of Mana, Radiant Historia, Nostalgia, FF:Heroes of Light , DQ9, Pokemon (lol), Valkyrie Profile, Rune Factory

            All those games are ones I know are good, and I own about half of those. DQ9 and CoM are both really good, as I've played each like a million times and loved the crap out of them.

            There's plenty, and I every game I have bought for the DS so far hasn't let me down or anything. Then again, I can't throw around money, so I only get the games I know are good..

            I just can't wait for the 3DS to get a bunch of good 3D RPGs. The 64 remakes have been good so far, but I just want something that will make my jaw drop for the 3DS..

            Anyway I just want less of these Linear FPSes and more interesting ideas that haven't been tried before. If the gaming companies all donated money for videogame research more we could be playing with VR and stuff lol

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            • Senip
              Forum User
              • Feb 2008
              • 611

              #36
              Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

              Originally posted by Pseudo Enigma
              I'm a really low budget (really really realllllllllly low) gamer so I haven't been able to play all the ones I've wanted to try out.

              Children of Mana, Radiant Historia, Nostalgia, FF:Heroes of Light , DQ9, Pokemon (lol), Valkyrie Profile, Rune Factory

              All those games are ones I know are good, and I own about half of those. DQ9 and CoM are both really good, as I've played each like a million times and loved the crap out of them.

              There's plenty, and I every game I have bought for the DS so far hasn't let me down or anything. Then again, I can't throw around money, so I only get the games I know are good..

              I just can't wait for the 3DS to get a bunch of good 3D RPGs. The 64 remakes have been good so far, but I just want something that will make my jaw drop for the 3DS..

              Anyway I just want less of these Linear FPSes and more interesting ideas that haven't been tried before. If the gaming companies all donated money for videogame research more we could be playing with VR and stuff lol
              Actually, the Mana games have really been a let down. They went to a tactics style play because Kingdom Hearts has basically taken their niche, which really sucks because I thought they were so good.


              (also it's pines backwards what a tard lolo)

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              • Pseudo Enigma
                ごめんなさい (/ω\)
                • Aug 2012
                • 2290

                #37
                Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

                I haven't played anything other than LoM, SoM1&2, CoM and SoE, so I don't know if it's gone downhill or not. I know I enjoy what they've been doing.

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                • Reincarnate
                  x'); DROP TABLE FFR;--
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6332

                  #38
                  Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

                  IMO, DLC is one of two things:

                  1. Paying extra for shit that should have been included in the game you paid for already
                  2. Extra shit you don't really need

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                  • Kibblre
                    Caelondia Represent
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 1984

                    #39
                    Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

                    Originally posted by Reincarnate
                    IMO, DLC is one of two things:

                    1. Paying extra for shit that should have been included in the game you paid for already
                    2. Extra shit you don't really need
                    I disagree with #1 in certain cases (not counting the cases of free DLC, because nobody can argue against it). I can't think of an example off the top of my head, but there do exist some DLCs that have good reason to not be included with the game and are well worth the price. I'll edit this if I can remember a good example.

                    EDIT: GTA IV DLC was pretty good. It gave you an entirely different storyline in the same setting without having to buy another game. I don't think they would've thought to included two stories in the original game at the cost of lowering the time spent on the actual story.
                    Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.

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                    • Poison-
                      Nope
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3772

                      #40
                      Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

                      Originally posted by Kibblre
                      I disagree with #1 in certain cases (not counting the cases of free DLC, because nobody can argue against it). I can't think of an example off the top of my head, but there do exist some DLCs that have good reason to not be included with the game and are well worth the price. I'll edit this if I can remember a good example.
                      Expansions.

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                      • Kibblre
                        Caelondia Represent
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1984

                        #41
                        Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

                        Originally posted by Poison-
                        Expansions.
                        I've never purchased a true expansion, since I don't count the DLC I listed as an expansion because it didn't extend the original, so I wouldn't have an accurate opinion on them.
                        Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.

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                        • Pseudo Enigma
                          ごめんなさい (/ω\)
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 2290

                          #42
                          Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

                          DLC can help keep the cost down on games. If the companies include the DLC into the game in certain cases, it would almost like be selling 2 games. Then they wouldn't be able to afford what it had cost to make it. (i.e. no profit at all) unless they priced it ridiculously high, which would turn certain gamers away.

                          sometimes DLC is good. The Dragon Quest VC (not sure what it stands for) in Dragon Quest 9 was a really good idea. It's a shop that pumped out quests and armor periodically, rather than all at the same time. That way the game would stay funner for a longer time. Also, it updated a shop with a weekly theme. So if you were collecting items it would make your life a hell of a lot easier, because some of the items in there were really rare drops.

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                          • Senip
                            Forum User
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 611

                            #43
                            Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

                            Originally posted by Pseudo Enigma
                            I haven't played anything other than LoM, SoM1&2, CoM and SoE, so I don't know if it's gone downhill or not. I know I enjoy what they've been doing.
                            That's what kills me about it, really. The series was so good, and Kingdom Hearts' insane (and, imo, mostly undeserved) popularity pretty much killed it.

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                            • Kibblre
                              Caelondia Represent
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 1984

                              #44
                              Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

                              Originally posted by Pseudo Enigma
                              DLC can help keep the cost down on games. If the companies include the DLC into the game in certain cases, it would almost like be selling 2 games. Then they wouldn't be able to afford what it had cost to make it. (i.e. no profit at all) unless they priced it ridiculously high, which would turn certain gamers away.

                              sometimes DLC is good. The Dragon Quest VC (not sure what it stands for) in Dragon Quest 9 was a really good idea. It's a shop that pumped out quests and armor periodically, rather than all at the same time. That way the game would stay funner for a longer time. Also, it updated a shop with a weekly theme. So if you were collecting items it would make your life a hell of a lot easier, because some of the items in there were really rare drops.
                              I'm talking about the shitty day 1 DLC. Saints Row 3 day 1 DLC. HAY GET MORE GUNS IF YA PAY $10 DOLLERS LOLOL.
                              Какой идиот придумал Бутерброд с дикобраза? Он хулиган и бездельник.

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                              • Pseudo Enigma
                                ごめんなさい (/ω\)
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 2290

                                #45
                                Re: Let's talk about the video game industry

                                Originally posted by Kibblre
                                I'm talking about the shitty day 1 DLC. Saints Row 3 day 1 DLC. HAY GET MORE GUNS IF YA PAY $10 DOLLERS LOLOL.
                                yeah that stuff is bullshit and needs to go. I was more talking about the whole thing in general though.

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