Re: Does your gender or sex define you?
Kilroy, you're putting things into my words that weren't there. You've also missed the most important point of my most recent set of posts. I don't know why you assume that because one person thinks they would be alright being an opposite sex, means that they immediately think you, and everyone else, should be able to experience things the same way. Just because I like black olives, doesn't mean you like them, and it would be pretty dumb of me to expect you to too, especially if you've said specifically 'I hate black olives'. This topic's intent was more in line with 'do you like black olives' than anything else, and I very purposefully asked people to answer about themselves. Yes, its dumb of me to assume that no one's going to get hurt, but I ****ing hate it, absolutely hate it, when someone assumes that just because they feel one way about themselves, that everyone else must feel that way too. And the very fact that you see everyone who's said 'no' as either being TG or else sausage meat, meant that you assumed no one can say to themselves 'I'm me, you're you, we're different', even though me and you essentially already did that weeks ago in this thread, talking about our respective bodies. (Well a lot of people can't, even when it comes down to food, but you gotta give people a chance.)
"People base their conduct on the opinions they have about other people."
That's why this thread is about each individual person, about themselves.
And yet you're one of the only people in this thread who's had an opinion about someone else, and that's why you're getting backlash. No one's said in this thread or elsewhere in CT, said that you're TG and you're wrong, all TG are wrong, you should be able to cope or deal or you plain just shouldn't have a problem at all, you're not discriminated against, you should be able to find whatever job you want, etc. The fact that you're a minority really seems a side-note to why people are pissed at you (although not why you're pissed at them). To say that people have no experience with gender incongruety unless you're 100% TG is a huge assumption on your part. You've insulted people who may feel androgynous, who are asexual, depressed people who don't give a shit about gender (among other things), who are gay and who have a hard time of it and would like to be straight, and probably a few others who have reasons I haven't thought about/haven't been posted. I mean, if you were a gay person, and this was about sexuality, you'd be shitting on bisexuals, who often have a hard time fitting into a gay community or a straight community, someone like Fido. And your remark would be akin to saying 'I'm actually gay, and I'm insulted that someone can think they'd be gay and straight at the same time.' Just because I've never fallen for a woman, doesn't mean that I think you either have to be gay or straight, and anything inbetween is just you lying to yourself. And there's still like 50% of people who obviously feel like you do in that they're strongly one gender!
As to talking about genders and me saying 'they don't matter', its more of an ideal that I have more than anything. The only way something like that would really work out would be if there were only 1 sex. But it's hard enough to fight societal systems, much less biological ones.
Haven't you ever thought that, societally, the more people who feel less like they have specific genders, the more people will probably be accepting of TG people, because the former seems like its representative of respecting individuals feelings, as opposed to people having to live up to traditional expectations?
As to what I mean when I say 'identity', I really don't know what you're getting at. Its what you see yourself as I suppose, I haven't thought about it much. I can't think of a synonym to the word.
Kilroy, you're putting things into my words that weren't there. You've also missed the most important point of my most recent set of posts. I don't know why you assume that because one person thinks they would be alright being an opposite sex, means that they immediately think you, and everyone else, should be able to experience things the same way. Just because I like black olives, doesn't mean you like them, and it would be pretty dumb of me to expect you to too, especially if you've said specifically 'I hate black olives'. This topic's intent was more in line with 'do you like black olives' than anything else, and I very purposefully asked people to answer about themselves. Yes, its dumb of me to assume that no one's going to get hurt, but I ****ing hate it, absolutely hate it, when someone assumes that just because they feel one way about themselves, that everyone else must feel that way too. And the very fact that you see everyone who's said 'no' as either being TG or else sausage meat, meant that you assumed no one can say to themselves 'I'm me, you're you, we're different', even though me and you essentially already did that weeks ago in this thread, talking about our respective bodies. (Well a lot of people can't, even when it comes down to food, but you gotta give people a chance.)
"People base their conduct on the opinions they have about other people."
That's why this thread is about each individual person, about themselves.
And yet you're one of the only people in this thread who's had an opinion about someone else, and that's why you're getting backlash. No one's said in this thread or elsewhere in CT, said that you're TG and you're wrong, all TG are wrong, you should be able to cope or deal or you plain just shouldn't have a problem at all, you're not discriminated against, you should be able to find whatever job you want, etc. The fact that you're a minority really seems a side-note to why people are pissed at you (although not why you're pissed at them). To say that people have no experience with gender incongruety unless you're 100% TG is a huge assumption on your part. You've insulted people who may feel androgynous, who are asexual, depressed people who don't give a shit about gender (among other things), who are gay and who have a hard time of it and would like to be straight, and probably a few others who have reasons I haven't thought about/haven't been posted. I mean, if you were a gay person, and this was about sexuality, you'd be shitting on bisexuals, who often have a hard time fitting into a gay community or a straight community, someone like Fido. And your remark would be akin to saying 'I'm actually gay, and I'm insulted that someone can think they'd be gay and straight at the same time.' Just because I've never fallen for a woman, doesn't mean that I think you either have to be gay or straight, and anything inbetween is just you lying to yourself. And there's still like 50% of people who obviously feel like you do in that they're strongly one gender!
As to talking about genders and me saying 'they don't matter', its more of an ideal that I have more than anything. The only way something like that would really work out would be if there were only 1 sex. But it's hard enough to fight societal systems, much less biological ones.
Haven't you ever thought that, societally, the more people who feel less like they have specific genders, the more people will probably be accepting of TG people, because the former seems like its representative of respecting individuals feelings, as opposed to people having to live up to traditional expectations?
As to what I mean when I say 'identity', I really don't know what you're getting at. Its what you see yourself as I suppose, I haven't thought about it much. I can't think of a synonym to the word.
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