FFR poker league -dead-

[Reach]

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Wow WTF is up with this Hellmuth guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99-jcla0MHc

Phil does make at least one point. Having 'special hands' and putting your money in with junk like that is retarded and superstitious nonsense that will leave you a busted donk.

However, Hellmuth deserves pretty much any punishment he gets for being so bad mannered.


With that said, I firmly feel like a lot of what this guy does is purely hyperbole for show. He puts on a show wherever he goes, and that's partially why he's so famous. He has a lot of tournament wins in the past, but if he didn't blow up all the time, nobody would really pay attention to him. As such, he's probably a nice guy off camera. I'm willing to bet it's mostly a show.

[Reincarnate]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCpuu2FpC1o&feature=related

0:35

"Meltdown in 3... 2... 1..."


lmfao

[TC_Halogen]

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I'm still a big fan of Joseph Hachem. He's proof that a ton of patience with a short-stack can make you a winner (like his win in the 2005 WSOP, coming into the final table as a major underdog). I definitely idolize him.

[Reach]

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I'm still a big fan of Joseph Hachem. He's proof that a ton of patience with a short-stack can make you a winner (like his win in the 2005 WSOP, coming into the final table as a major underdog). I definitely idolize him.

Hate to say it, but a ton of luck can make anyone a winner.

Hachem is pretty good, but he luckboxed that win. Joe Hachem one time'd about a hundred times too many (I'm with daniel here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JcfGlVBYE8 )

Not that every main event winner didn't luckbox their way there. The best players never win the main event, but that's precisely why I wouldn't idolize them. In a tournament with a structure like that without re-buys, it's simply inevitable that the luckiest player wins.


if you're going to idolize a tournament player, at least idolize someone like Ivey that has been showing good results for years on end.

[TC_Halogen]

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Hate to say it, but a ton of luck can make anyone a winner.

Hachem is pretty good, but he luckboxed that win. Joe Hachem one time'd about a hundred times too many.

Not that every main event winner didn't luckbox their way there. The best players never win the main event, but that's precisely why I wouldn't idolize them. In a tournament with a structure like that without re-buys, it's simply inevitable that the luckiest player wins.


if you're going to idolize a tournament player, at least idolize someone like Ivey that has been showing good results for years on end.

About Hachem though: while he did draw a good amount of winnings from his 2005 WSOP win, he's also racked up a good amount more since then. I just happen to like his confidence and how collected he usually is at the table, even when he loses.

Nothing wrong with going for some bigger names who have one a lot of money; Phil Ivey definitely knows how to keep winning over and over again. I just don't find myself as interested in him, though.

Actually, now that I think about it, I totally forgot about Greg Raymer. Another pretty great player, who's been remaining under the radar.

Also, just found this article. Just caught my interest a bit.

[leonid]

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This thread makes me want to start learning Poker basics.. Might re-read through these three Herrington on Hold'em books I have

[ichliebekase]

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Signed up under this name. Might not be able to play every single tournament that rolls around though.

[Reincarnate]

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Can someone give me a brief overview of when to determine when to properly call/check/bet/raise/go all in/fold/etc.

[leonid]

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Can someone give me a brief overview of when to determine when to properly call/check/bet/raise/go all in/fold/etc.

If anyone knew that he/she would win all the money

[Reincarnate]

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If anyone knew that he/she would win all the money

I mean the basics -- i.e. moreso what NOT to do

[awein999]

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Can someone give me a brief overview of when to determine when to properly call/check/bet/raise/go all in/fold/etc.

That's a hard question to answer because it matters who you are playing and how play is going. I can't answer completely without writing a freaking novel because every situation is different.

You generally want to start off playing strong hands 9 handed (folding a lot of weaker ones), and bet when you are strong. However, as you get more experienced and play more experienced players things get very complicated as you always want to try to stay a step ahead of any given opponent. If your opponent is thinking, you have to think one step beyond that. And of course it matters how many people you are playing at once. Less people=see more hands.

I'll leave it at that for now.

[Reincarnate]

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Hmm maybe my question will be better answered if I simply give an example.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1245/86611891.png

What is the process I should be going through?

[awein999]

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Hmm maybe my question will be better answered if I simply give an example.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1245/86611891.png

What is the process I should be going through?

If I were to assume this was the very first hand I'd give this a 2.5k raise and see what people do.

If someone reraises you to like 6-7.5k first hand I'd let it go because they probably have AK or AQ or a high pocket pair if they do this on the very first hand assuming people are reasonable. Because you raised from the worst position you look strong already, a reraise on you looks even stronger.


You could also just call the 1k blind but that allows everyone else into the hand and it gives someone else the possibility to pop it. You want to try to isolate.

And just folding first thing there is very weak, you probably want to play.

[Reincarnate]

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I accidentally called then went all in and everyone else folded O.O won the pot somehow

[Reincarnate]

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Can you explain this using variables at all?

e.g. everyone starts out with X dollars, pot is Y dollars, blinds are A and B dollars, raising means you add/subtract from this variable, calling means this, blahblahblah