Ingame Song Information

[qqwref]

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The difficulty system will be messed up until someone actually starts to compare songs by which one the community of players finds harder. That is all.

[jimerax]

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in a game like ffr with so many people playing all the time a difficulty system like thirdstyle's would be good

actually they use that (automatic) system because nobody has to bother with difficulties, not because it's perfectly accurate.

either way it's ok unless difficulties are horribly off.

[who_cares973]

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it isnt perfectly accurate but the algorithm rubix came up with is good enough to be used

[XCV]

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These been bothering me for a while.

Im Sick of Uprock -> I'm Sick of Uprock

[okay, unnecessary things removed.]

EDIT: The concept of reworking the years-old genres is a good one, and I just noticed it came up in this thread a couple pages ago.

So, my thoughts:
Dance should become Pop. Thin it out, leaving things like Nina, Koisuru VOC@LOID, etc and move the pop rock over to it. Heck, if we can get permission from some of the huge labels, then add some newer stuff.
Dance2 should become Electronic (blanket term for trance, house, etc), and what's not in Dance anymore should be added to it. It'll be a little overpopulated, especially after cleaning up Misc, but you can't have it all.
Move Hip-Hop to the Funk spot and merge.
Arcade is fine.
Rock needs to have some of the pop cleaned out of it but otherwise it's fine.
Classic should be Classical, but it's fine
Separate Jazz from Misc, and clean out the electronic.
Leave Secret as is.
Get rid of the Purchased genre completely and just move the songs into their respective genres after they're bought.
T/ST/L is fine.
Finally, add a Japan genre (Foreign if you like.) Move the J-core, J-pop, and some of the stuff in Misc over to it.

So, summarizing:

Old --> New
D --> E
D2 --> A
F --> P
A --> H
R --> R
C --> C
M --> M
? --> ?
P --> T
T --> S
H --> L
S --> J
L

Feel free to mess around with the order if you like.

[ichliebekase]

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Correct spelling and grammar of songs don't matter. The artist will spell words and type names however they want it to be written.

- FFR songs TOP 10's -
-----------------------------------
MAX COMBO
(Most)
1. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (3648)
2. Blue Rose (3622)
3. Blue Army (3330)
4. STRAWBERRY SWEETZ (3250)
5. ==Planet Karma== (3075)
6. Pants (3024)
7. Holy Orders (2758)
8. Max Forever (2709)
9. BB Evolution (2631)
10. The Lunatic Princess (2589)
(Least)
1. Excite Bike (32)
2. Free Space (FFR Edit) (59)
3. Power (61)
4. Eien Meikyu (100)
5. Norfolk Gals (103)
6. Pita (106)
7. 5.1.1. (AG Supercool Mix) (118)
8. Love You Anymore (120)
9. Bubbleman Stage Theme (138)
10. Do Not Sex To This (141)

Length (TOP 5 each)
(Longest)
1. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (6:36)
1. Blue Army (6:36)
3. ==Planet KARMA== (6:24)
4. Blue Rose (6:00)
5. Pants (5:58)
(Shortest)
1. Excite Bike (0:09)
2. Norfolk Gals (0:29)
3. Brooks Was Here [Heavy] (0:31)
4. Pita (0:32)
5. The Adventures of Lolo (0:36)

This is a section that should be checked over, especially since World Tour 2004 isn't in these, but is in other parts of the OP.

[justin_ator]

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Yes, Red Wings Over Bacon needs to be on there as well =]

[TC_Halogen]

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These have been bothering me for a while.

Im Sick of Uprock -> I'm Sick of Uprock
Torinouta -> Tori no Uta (not sure about this one)
Of course you need and .. NEED ME -> Of course you need and...NEED ME

Uprock should be changed.

need [...] is a shortened song title for the sake of fitting the title on the game screen (original: Of course you Need and nEed and neEd and neeD and NEED me)

[XCV]

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need [...] is a shortened song title for the sake of fitting the title on the game screen (original: Of course you Need and nEed and neEd and neeD and NEED me)

I know I'm being dickish about this, but getting rid of the spaces and adding a period would get rid of a character as well as fixing the grammar.

[jimerax]

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Im Sick of Uprock -> This is the original song name, so leaving this as it is.
Torinouta -> fixed for the consistency of Japanese songs
Of course you Need and .. NEED ME -> didn't know there's a grammar issue on this. fixed

And yeah I know we need to do something about genres, especially dance and misc are getting ridiculous.

ps also, can someone write current top xx things?

[ichliebekase]

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- FFR songs TOP 10's -
-----------------------------------
MAX COMBO
(Most)
1. Red Wings Over Baron (4312)
2. World Tour 2004 (3940)
3. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (3648)
4. Blue Rose (3622)
5. Blue Army (3330)
6. STRAWBERRY SWEETZ (3250)
7. ==Planet Karma== (3075)
8. Pants (3024)
9. Holy Orders (2758)
10. Max Forever (2709)
(Least)
1. Excite Bike (32)
2. Free Space (FFR Edit) (59)
3. Power (61)
4. Prelude No. 7 (91)
5. Eien Meikyu (100)
6. Norfolk Gals (103)
7. Pita (106)
8. Etude in E Major (112)
9. 5.1.1. (AG Supercool Mix) (118)
10. Love You Anymore (120)

Length (TOP 5 each)
(Longest)
1. World Tour 2004 (8:38)
2. Red Wings Over Baron (7:52)
3. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (6:36)
3. Blue Army (6:36)
5. ==Planet KARMA== (6:24)
(Shortest)
1. Excite Bike (0:09)
2. Yoshi’s Cookie (0:25)
3. Norfolk Gals (0:29)
4. Brooks Was Here [Heavy] (0:31)
5. Pita (0:32)

I don't have the average taps per second, will work on that in the morning. Figured this would be a good start.

[TC_Halogen]

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I'm on it, JX. Calculating all of the TPS counts for all of the FGOs, and I'll have them rearranged. None of the new 11s are going to pass FotBB, but I will check Of Course ... NEED, etc.

EDIT: looks like Sara ninja'd the first half that I had finished, but I'm about halfway done with the TPS counts

[TC_Halogen]

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Correct lists (Sara's list had two songs not accounted for under max combo):

MAX COMBO:
(Most)
0. Vertex Beta vROFL (4,616)
1. Red Wings Over Baron (4,311)
2. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival (3,648)
3. Blue Rose (3,622)
4. Blue Army (3,330)
5. STRAWBERRY SWEETZ (3,250)
6. ==Planet KARMA== (3,075)
7. Pants (3,024)
8. La Campanella (2,888)
9. Little God Channel (2,814)
10. Holy Orders (2,758)

(Least)
1. Excite Bike (32)
2. Free Space (FFR Edit) (59)
3. Power (61)
4. Prelude No. 7 (91)
5. Eien Meikyu (100)
6. Norfolk Gals (103)
7. Pita (106)
8. Etude in E Major (112)
9. 5.1.1 (AG Supercool Mix) (118)
10. Love You Anymore (120)

LENGTH:
Longest (5):
1. World Tour 2004 (8:38)
2. Red Wings Over Baron (7:52)
3. Final Fantasy Last Battle Festival/Blue Army (6:36)
4. ==Planet KARMA== (6:24)
5. Blue Rose (6:00)

Shortest (5):
1. Excite Bike (0:09)
2. Yoshi’s Cookie (0:25)
3. Norfolk Gals (0:29)
4. Brooks Was Here [Heavy] (0:31)
5. Pita (0:32)

TOP AVERAGE TPS
0. Vertex BETA vROFL: 184s, 4616 notes = 25.09 T/S
1. Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: 94s, 1600 notes = 17.02 T/s
2. OMGWTFT0K3N: 125s, 1923 notes = 15.38 T/S
3. The Adventures of Lolo: 36s, 524 notes = 14.55 T/S
4. Death Piano: 174s, 2420 notes = 13.91 T/S
5. Here We Go: 89s, 1203 notes = 13.52 T/S
6. Winter Wind Etude: 186s, 2407 notes = 12.94 T/S
7. 11ELEVEN: 121s, 1528 notes = 12.63 T/S
8. Eclipse (Solar): 115s, 1445 notes = 12.57 T/S
9. Kidney Stone: 129s, 1619 notes = 12.55 T/S
10. Across Rooftops: 181s, 2254 notes = 12.45 T/S

TPS for all 12+:
The Adventures of Lolo: 36s, 524 notes = 14.55 T/s
grind2: 72s, 878 notes = 12.19 T/s
Reality: 77s, 921 notes = 11.96 T/s
Saddest RMX: 78s, 919 notes = 11.78 T/s
Here We Go: 89s, 1203 notes = 13.52 t/s
Nomina Nuda Tenemus: 91s, 987 notes = 10.85 T/s
Reluctantly Accepting Temporary Overexhaustion: 94s, 1600 notes = 17.02 T/s
I Hate The 80s: 102s, 1008 notes = 9.88 T/s
One Minute Waltz: 106s, 1057 notes = 9.97 T/s
Hardkore Atomic: 108s, 1034 notes = 9.57 T/S
Molto Vivace: 110s, 1177 notes = 10.70 T/S
Frictional Nevada: 112s, 1325 notes = 11.83 T/S
Eclipse (Solar): 115s, 1445 notes = 12.57 T/S
Counter Clockwise Chant Pattern: 116s, 1423 notes = 12.27 T/S
Electro Rush x8 v2: 117s, 1215 notes = 10.38 T/S
Time to Eye: 118s, 1148 notes = 9.73 T/S
11ELEVEN: 121s, 1528 notes = 12.63 T/S
OMGWTFT0K3N: 125s, 1923 notes = 15.38 T/S
DeVouR: 127s, 1478 notes = 11.64 T/S
Kidney Stone: 129s, 1619 notes = 12.55 T/S
Einstein-Rosen Bridge: 134s, 1282 notes = 9.57 T/S
J'ai Envie de Plaisir X2: 137s, 1652 notes = 12.06 T/S
Schmollbluk: 138s, 1645 notes = 11.92 T/S
Sparkle Downer: 144s, 1360 notes = 9.44 T/S
Rage Template: 145s, 1580 notes = 10.90 T/S
Necropotence: 150s, 1695 notes = 11.30 T/S
Magical 8bit Tour: 156s, 1877 notes = 12.03 T/S
Crowdpleaser: 158s, 1236 notes = 7.82 T/S
Ketsarku Mozgalom: 158s, 1635 notes = 10.35 T/S
Almost There: 164s, 1922 notes = 11.72 T/S
Revolutionary Etude: 166s, 1600 notes = 9.64 T/S
Death Piano: 174s, 2420 notes = 13.91 T/S
Across Rooftops: 181s, 2254 notes = 12.45 T/S
Vertex BETA vROFL: 184s, 4616 notes = 25.09 T/S
Winter Wind Etude: 186s, 2407 notes = 12.94 T/S
Integraation: 190s, 1930 notes = 10.16 T/S
Mephisto Waltz: 193s, 1842 notes = 9.54 T/S
RAN: 204s, 1754 notes = 8.60 T/S
Tageri: 204s, 1945 notes = 9.53 T/S
Grand Galop Chromatique: 206s, 2361 notes = 11.46 T/S
La Campanella: 249s, 2888 notes = 11.60 T/S
Little God Channel: 256s, 2814 notes = 10.99 T/S
Holy Orders: 260s, 2758 notes = 10.61 T/S
Strawberry Sweetz: 294s, 3250 notes = 11.05 T/S
Pants: 358s, 3024 notes = 8.45 T/S
Blue Rose: 360s, 3622 notes = 10.06 T/S
==Planet KARMA==: 384s, 3075 notes = 8.01 T/S
Red Wings Over Baron: 472s, 4311 notes = 9.13 T/S

Of Course: 168s, 1856 notes = 11.05 T/S (just in case)

[jimerax]

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thanks, updated the list.

[qqwref]

Re: Ingame Song Information

I don't know how Halogen is calculating taps/second, but I would like to do it like this: (30 * number of arrows) (last frame of arrows - first frame of arrows + 1). This way the number of empty frames before the first arrow doesn't matter. I think this would change up the counts a bit. Also we should definitely consider some of the higher FMOs for the list.

[igotrhythm]

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I'm going to go ahead and say that Reality's average TPS is incredibly deceiving, as the 77s figure takes into account the empty intro. Take off the 10 second radio announcement (or whatever) and you get 921 notes/67 seconds = 13.75 T/S, which is in line with most of the other FGOs listed. ERB has the same deal, but it's less noticeable because the intro takes up a lower percentage of the file's length. True, busting out a list like this is incredibly repetitive and draining--I know this from experience--but QQ does have a good point.