Is it wrong to be gay?

[Rubin0]

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The biggest problem for bisexual women is that lesbians simply won't date them and other bisexual women are dating men.

[kommisar]

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I'm christian myself, and you know what I hate? When other christians run adds saying that homosexuals want us all to be like them (and these ads do exist) it always pisses me off. It puts the community as a whole in a bad light. Me? I am perfectly fine with people being homosexual (but I'd admittedly be a bit creeped out if a guy started hitting on me.) And as for gay marriage? Although I have very small reservations about it being called "Marriage," I have absolutely no problem with the concept whatsoever, and it annoys me when people not only target it, but when they use it to take attention away from bigger issues. Also, Kilroy, the church opposing science is actually rather recent. Historically, a fair amount of scientific research came from the church.

These are the kinds of christians I can actually legitimately respect.


Homosexuality is now like racism was in the 70's. It's all past now. Let's move on it's part of life deal w/it etc. Put yourself in their minority shoes. It really sucks when everyone's judging you. Liking girls? It's fucen wrong. No matter how right it feels for you, everyone else is out to get you because of it. Wouldn't that suck?

[D!LL]

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I guess I'm blessed. I grew up in an area where no one really denounced me for my sexual orientation. I really don't understand the point of homophobia or hatred towards gays. It doesn't make any sense at all and it is a testament to how ignorant people truly can be.

[Kage06]

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The funny thing is, whenever I play at the arcade on DDR or any dance machine for that matter, I'm automatically seen as being gay by people. Especially if they note how good I am compared to the average.
It annoys me to be honest. Especially seeing as I'm not.

Playing on dance machines is not the way to pick up girls

Just thought that would be appropriate. It's the way people are brought up to see things. Guys aren't meant to be seen dancing apparently.

[Koolmaster242]

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I'm bi and all of my friends just turned around when I told them I was that I will just become gay and it's pointless, but I like girls more, and I have dated only girls, but find some men cute and some are great people, yes I've had a crush on a guy before, and everyone I knew frowned apon it which I never understood why.
Parents: Shouldn't you just care that your son is happy and he finds people who enjoy him in his life?
Friends: If they are true, they would understand that I chose to be bi, and it wasn't a 'trait' or a 'gene' or it wasn't a choice, I chose to be bi because certain men make me happy
A girl came up to me one day and said: "It's not right to be gay or bi: You are put on earth to have sex with a girl, and have a kid, you cannot have a kid with a man and live life on, so just be straight and make babies" I find this stupid because, yes, I was put on earth to mate, but I can chose to be married to a man and adopt a kid that could have been mistreated and treat him as my own, just because she disliked me being bi doesn't mean that I can't live as happy as a straight guy, who knows
I might turn gay
Or I might be straight
Either way, I'm human, I'm as normal as a straight person is
And people should get over their immature self

[blade_anime]

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I think parents have a somewhat legitimate reason for being upset, because they may have been wanting grandchildren and are disappointed that you could be the last of your line, but, as you said, you could always adopt. Also, next time a girl comes up to you and says something like that? Ask her if she's volunteering.

[Kilroy_x]

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I don't think parents should feel entitled to grandchildren. That's sort of admitting you view your children as property.

[ledwix]

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No one is entitled to anything. We didn't even earn our spot here on Earth; we just appeared and accepted it over the years. The desire for grandchildren is ultimately just a reflection of evolutionary greediness.

[Wyde]

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I think parents have a somewhat legitimate reason for being upset, because they may have been wanting grandchildren and are disappointed that you could be the last of your line, but, as you said, you could always adopt.

There is still the fact that it's not the same gene pool, and some do value such things enough for that to affect how they feel about losing chances of having genetically related grandchildren, whether they consider them an entitlement or not. Adoption won't put everyone at ease. So yeah, yet another dilemma in life that doesn't have a solution everyone will support.

[Jake900210]

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Of course not. If it were ever denounced "WRONG" by generally anyone, they would be sending more of a message to everyone not gay than to the actually gay people. To say its wrong to be a certain way is to say that its wrong in someone else's view about everything else. Which is contradiction to the maximum level.

If I say that Black people are wrong, black people could think that white people are wrong. Its like religion in a way. Your beliefs will be true until another belief appears and then causes both beliefs to indefinitely be unprovable.

[blade_anime]

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I never said that anybody was entitled to anything, I merely stated that one parents would want something. If you think there's no hope, then you should be posting in the thread about suicide instead.

[Wyde]

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I was referring to Kilroy's comment with the mention of "entitlement", since I was taking a brief look at other posts made recently as well. My post was not intended to come across as an expression of hopelessness: just a needless compulsion (my brain is cool) to insist that adoption is not a wholly desirable solution to maintaining a family line, due to still prevailing opinions on direct gene relation I'm certain still exist in the minds of some. That said, I fully support any couple adopting children if for whatever reason they cannot/will not sire their own.

[Vendetta21]

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Every time I've read about asexuality I've found stuff that has explained that it's so phenomenally rare as to be next-to-non-existent. If you are claiming you are asexual as an affectation or because of low sexual drives or simply because you want to side-step the issue of being placed into a gender role by society by allowing yourself to create your own unique gender role you should really consider just doing those things without claiming asexuality.

[hcmushroom]

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I'm confused as to why anyone is worried about the world's population going stagnant, do you have any idea how fast we are OVER-populating the world? there's a reason China installed the 1-Child Policy. Scientists are predicting that in the next 40 years, we need to produce as much food as in the last 8,000.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110220/ts_afp/scienceuspopulationfood

So I mean, us gays of the world are actually helping you out. If we had legally equal rights in adopting, we also might be helping out the millions of starving orphans worldwide.

[FN_Boski]

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Either way, this whole subject in hand will never have everyone "okay" with it. Many are just uncomfortable with people being gay, bi, whatever. People are always attempting to change viewpoints on subjects, or to completely shun or diss the whole entire group as a whole. Some do change viewpoints, but many simply do not. I see this as another endless debate that will never have everyone on the same boat, as many others have said here. Someone will ALWAYS have something to say, and there will be those who agree and disagree. That being said, we should just accept people as a whole and not focus on a specific thing about them (once again, as others have already said). Soo..... that's all I have to say. Essentially deal with it, not trying to sound like a prick or anything.