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I think he's talking about Thorim hard mode.
~TsugomaruOriginally posted by HilulukWHEN do you think people die...?
When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!Comment
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He did, but it was a page back.
~TsugomaruOriginally posted by HilulukWHEN do you think people die...?
When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!Comment
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You're SUPPOSED to blow cooldowns for that fight. Many warriors spec into lowered CDs for Last stand and Shield wall + glyphs to keep up with CDs for progression.It's pretty unfair to basically require a DK tank / Pally/Priest healer for Phase 1. I know you don't HAVE to have them but there's no way a shaman+druid heal composition is going to be able to heal through that 120k over 6 seconds. You pretty much need a DI/SW/PS to survive. Our tank, who is really, really good, was forced to blow two cooldowns every time the healers couldn't shield him. If I were healing, we'd've lost. There's nothing I can do to prevent damage. I can't heal 40,000 damage in 6 seconds. I don't know who can, actually. Of course, this is going off right after a Napalm, which means you have two people who must be healed or they will die.
It's a CD rotation fight, like sarth 3 drakes. Granted DKs make it easy with their IBF being on a 1min CD, but you can get around it without too much trouble. Figure out what cooldowns you have in the raid that decrease damage taken or stop death (Pain suppression, Guardian spirit, shield wall, pally shield wall, last stand, shield wall, etc) and figure out a rotation.He who angers you conquers you. ~Elizabeth KennyComment
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That's true about warriors. They don't need to have as much hp as a DK to tank this as long as they have the cooldowns to carry them through the entirety of this DoT.
With Shield Wall glyphed and up, you only need to heal 72000 hp over 6 seconds and that can easily be accomplished.
~TsugomaruOriginally posted by HilulukWHEN do you think people die...?
When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!Comment
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I don't see how the tank can blow his cooldowns four times in 2 minutes.You're SUPPOSED to blow cooldowns for that fight. Many warriors spec into lowered CDs for Last stand and Shield wall + glyphs to keep up with CDs for progression.
It's a CD rotation fight, like sarth 3 drakes. Granted DKs make it easy with their IBF being on a 1min CD, but you can get around it without too much trouble. Figure out what cooldowns you have in the raid that decrease damage taken or stop death (Pain suppression, Guardian spirit, shield wall, pally shield wall, last stand, shield wall, etc) and figure out a rotation.
What if you had one DK tank, two shaman healers, and one druid healer? Do you just kick them out of the party and bring in paladins and priests? What happened to "bring the player"?
PS - even though we do have priests, we have no paladins of any kind. But I'm trying to make a point here. What if your tanks were a DK and a druid and your healers were shaman and druids? You can't win this fight. At all.Last edited by Squeek; 05-29-2009, 04:19 PM.Comment
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We found that our tank using cooldowns first rotation is good, and healers blowing cooldowns second is good. A few of the times we got a third blast, and we just got lucky on those I guess.
Admittedly, we have a DK tank, and healers are Druid, Shaman, and Priest.

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What's happening with the second tank? Can't you switch out tanks?
~TsugomaruOriginally posted by HilulukWHEN do you think people die...?
When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!Comment
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With regards to the hit-starvation.
After like four months, I finally replaced my Utgarde Keep ring with something from a raid. The only +hit ring that doesn't have wasted stats. So now I've got the t8 2pc. It's not a huge DPS upgrade, but it's better than the t7 2 and 4pc combined, so hey.Comment
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Because of the slow death of my current guild and my missing friends, my interest is starting to wane in this game. I'm going to try several things.
I'm going to try to join the top raiding guild on my server. I'm really disliking this idea because I don't want to be forced into a guild with what seems to be crazy loot rules and a strict raiding schedule, but it seems from their description that they're somewhat flexible with raid attendance.
If that fails, I'm going to try a server transfer with one of my characters. I can't decide whether or not I want to start with my healer or tank, but I may try it. I'll probably be transferring to Squeek's server if his guild will take me in because I know him better than everyone here and Tokzic plays on the Alliance, so that's not an option for me.
~TsugomaruOriginally posted by HilulukWHEN do you think people die...?
When their heart is pierced by a bullet from a pistol...? No.
When they succumb to an incurable disease...? No.
When they drink soup made with a poisonous mushroom...? NO!!!
IT'S WHEN A PERSON IS FORGOTTEN...!!!Comment
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Roll a DK and come to my guild. You'll get the raiding you want, without any of the over-serious fun vacuuming that other guilds tend to have.If that fails, I'm going to try a server transfer with one of my characters. I can't decide whether or not I want to start with my healer or tank, but I may try it. I'll probably be transferring to Squeek's server if his guild will take me in because I know him better than everyone here and Tokzic plays on the Alliance, so that's not an option for me.Comment
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Yeah being able to idle to answer the phone or get the door or use the bathroom totally sucks who would want that.
I'd rather be attacked at all times from 10-year olds with nothing better to do than to interrupt my herb-gathering.Comment

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