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  • Xx{Midnight}xX
    FFR Player
    • Aug 2007
    • 8548

    #1876
    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

    These are a few of my opinions.

    Tetris remix: Keep as a low VD, those jumps leave endless possibilities to get a good and perfect at the same time making the PA much more irritating and difficult.

    NNT is just another crappy dump that stays as a FGO.

    EHHS i would venture is a low FGO in my opinion but keeping it a FMO works I guess. It's a mega fast PA file.

    Bloodmeat is interesting, on index FGO would be my call but after playing it spread a FMO seems to be the most suiting... (That trill is a whore yes?)

    Jeanie: If i remember this file correctly it reminds me of a lower Frictional Nevada, it might not have the hard to read patterns but it does have the difficult of rolls that extremely fast. (Most likely it's just me but what ever.)

    Black key: This file seams so off sync it's not funny. Add jacks in the middle of no where we have a FMO. Indexable yes, FMO nonetheless.

    Summertime: I have yet to bear to play this file the whole way through, can't really offer an opinion. Probebly should leave it alone though.

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    • stavie33
      FFR Player
      • Aug 2006
      • 1925

      #1877
      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

      Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
      These are a few of my opinions.

      Tetris remix: Keep as a low VD, those jumps leave endless possibilities to get a good and perfect at the same time making the PA much more irritating and difficult.

      NNT is just another crappy dump that stays as a FGO.

      EHHS i would venture is a low FGO in my opinion but keeping it a FMO works I guess. It's a mega fast PA file.

      Bloodmeat is interesting, on index FGO would be my call but after playing it spread a FMO seems to be the most suiting... (That trill is a whore yes?)

      Jeanie: If i remember this file correctly it reminds me of a lower Frictional Nevada, it might not have the hard to read patterns but it does have the difficult of rolls that extremely fast. (Most likely it's just me but what ever.)

      Black key: This file seams so off sync it's not funny. Add jacks in the middle of no where we have a FMO. Indexable yes, FMO nonetheless.

      Summertime: I have yet to bear to play this file the whole way through, can't really offer an opinion. Probebly should leave it alone though.
      Tetris: Agree

      NNT: Agree

      EHHS: What crack you somkin? This song is low-mid FMO, I think it should be a 79, but that's just me, anyone who can do jumpstream can do this, songs flows well making PA easy, stamina's the real killer here

      Bloodmeat: Maybe for index an FGO, but low-mid FMO for spread, the only part of the song I can't AAA is that damned trill, and that is the only thing in the song that calls for mid FMO, the rainbow staircases are hard, but doable

      Jeanie: Don't compare this to FN, please, every burst can be jumped, and the patterns are easy to read and the song isn't THAT fast, the only parts of the song that are even remotely FMO part is around 650 combo (the 8th jumps < > then the roll then 16 jumptrill followed by roll)

      Black key: I fell stupid for not AAA'ing this yet, I BF it a lot, it's definitely VC for FC and PA reasons, but for a AAA it's really, really annoying. Then again it's just as annoying as nova pulser, so it could be VC (I've BF'd both of them, so neither are AAA'd), so VC seems right

      And I also think it's behans worst file and although I see what some of it is going to it still feels offsync and has bad layering, but that's not saying the files awful, it's a hard as hell song to step and I'm surprised he was even able to step it that well (I thought this song would never be stepped because it is weird to figure out the layering)
      It's getting better all the time
      I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
      The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
      You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
      Turning me round (Oh Oh)
      Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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      • TC_Halogen
        Rhythm game specialist.
        FFR Simfile Author
        FFR Music Producer
        • Feb 2008
        • 19376

        #1878
        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

        I'll swoop in here really quickly without any reasoning behind my thoughts simply because I read the thread, and because I feel like it.

        Tetris: VD
        Black Key Etude: VC
        Jeanie & Caroline: FMO
        Bloodmeat: FMO (and it's a good chart people, stfu )
        Summertime Perfume: FMO
        EHHS: FMO (lol)
        Kanon Kanon: I just sightread this; this needs to be FMO--some technique in there is a bit too hard for VC.

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        • stavie33
          FFR Player
          • Aug 2006
          • 1925

          #1879
          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
          I'll swoop in here really quickly without any reasoning behind my thoughts simply because I read the thread, and because I feel like it.

          Tetris: VD
          Black Key Etude: VC
          Jeanie & Caroline: FMO
          Bloodmeat: FMO (and it's a good chart people, stfu )
          Summertime Perfume: FMO
          EHHS: FMO (lol)
          Kanon Kanon: I just sightread this; this needs to be FMO--some technique in there is a bit too hard for VC.
          I love Bloodmeat, I think it's one of the best charts for any rock song in the game, who said it was bad? And also, I totally agree with you (minus Jeanie, but I'm the only one who thinks that so)
          It's getting better all the time
          I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
          The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
          You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
          Turning me round (Oh Oh)
          Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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          • Xx{Midnight}xX
            FFR Player
            • Aug 2007
            • 8548

            #1880
            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

            Just because you can jump it doesn't mean it makes it any easier.

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            • stavie33
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2006
              • 1925

              #1881
              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

              Originally posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
              Just because you can jump it doesn't mean it makes it any easier.
              Hell yes it does! You're telling me that the rolls in Necropotence are harder to PA than the rolls in songs like For FFR? No. Necro is hard for the mad stream, trills, and the 8th jump part of doom, but the 32nd rolls I can AAA each one by jumping, hence they are much, MUCH easier to PA consistently that rolls in songs like Document 13b or For FFR where I actually have to roll to PA them

              And I tried rolling the rolls in Crash the Beat! And couldn't do it at all, but with jump trilling I AAA'd the song 3 times already

              PS

              This is all my opinion and reflects only my opinion, and if you think rolls that can be jumped are harder than ones that can't, that's how you feel and I respect that. Nothing I say here is absolute, it's just my opinion (so people don't flame me)
              It's getting better all the time
              I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain)
              The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain)
              You're holding me down (Oh Oh)
              Turning me round (Oh Oh)
              Filling me up with your rules (Oooh)

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              • TC_Halogen
                Rhythm game specialist.
                FFR Simfile Author
                FFR Music Producer
                • Feb 2008
                • 19376

                #1882
                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                Originally posted by stavie33
                I love Bloodmeat, I think it's one of the best charts for any rock song in the game, who said it was bad?
                Enough people for Dore to make a comment in his profile about those who think it's bad. >_>

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                • Zybanthia
                  FFR Player
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 809

                  #1883
                  Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                  Sometimes "bad" and "unfun" are two different things though.

                  Not like I've played Bloodmeat. Just saying, the reason he wrote that is probably because the people who were calling it "bad" didn't think it was fun and didn't understand why he made it the way he made it.

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                  • Patashu
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 8609

                    #1884
                    Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                    No one's called my charts bad yet :<

                    I'm sure one Jai gets in things will change
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                    • Zybanthia
                      FFR Player
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 809

                      #1885
                      Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                      Originally posted by Patashu
                      No one's called my charts bad yet :<

                      I'm sure one Jai gets in things will change
                      Actually Forbidden Planet was horrible.

                      Feel loved now? P.S. Just kidding.

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                      • dore
                        caveman pornstar
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 6317

                        #1886
                        Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                        People call Bloodmeat bad because I didn't step any of the guitar ostinato because it would've been horrible. But obviously since I didn't step every sound ever it's a terrible file right?

                        I made the comment in my profile because of the people who thought it was a bad chart rather than a chart they didn't like, because it is a correct chart. If you think it's unfun or if you disagree with how I stepped it that's fine, but I hate when people mix "that sucks" with "I disagree with your interpretation of the song."

                        though most of the comments I've gotten so far have nothing to do with the charting explanation so whatever
                        Last edited by dore; 02-16-2009, 10:25 PM.
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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                        • [TeRa]
                          FFR Player
                          • May 2007
                          • 9922

                          #1887
                          Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                          <3 dore

                          Think way back when, when files were stepped without any pr/layering pretty much. Guess why people still played the files and didn't quit stepmania, the files were fun. Yes, fun files with absolutely no pr/layering.
                          Last edited by [TeRa]; 02-17-2009, 04:22 AM.

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                          • Zybanthia
                            FFR Player
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 809

                            #1888
                            Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                            PR can make a file really awkward anyway.

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                            • 5.points
                              Provy
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 671

                              #1889
                              Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                              Gym Leader (RBY) is a low VC, IMO.
                              Probably not, though.

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                              • Breakdown16
                                FFR Veteran
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1938

                                #1890
                                Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

                                Originally posted by 5.points
                                Gym Leader (RBY) is a low VC, IMO.
                                Probably not, though.
                                Yeah, there are faster and trickier Challenging songs around. Take any of those fast streamy files (Over the Frail Dream, for instance).


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