Ingame Song Information

[foilman8805]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Most of the difficulties are synonyms for each other, Hammy.

But I ask what is harder than Hardest? Hardest implies that nothing is harder than it (imo).

I like Hardest, and I'm also comfortable with Insane. If the For _____ Only titles are not disposed of, then FLO works the best, imo again.

[HammyMcSquirrel]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Most of the difficulties are synonyms for each other, Hammy.

Exactly my point. There is enough to be compared to "Hardest" as there is to "Easiest", even if the word "Hard" isn't used anywhere else in the difficulty ratings. I threw that into an edit on my previous post because I wasn't clear enough before.

[alexdestructions]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

For Shash's Sideburns Only.

For FishFish's Crotch Only.

[ShadowX2D]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I think For Beginners, For Masters Only, and For Gurus Only makes sense because each difficulty finished the phrase of this song is, such as this song is Very Difficult or this song is For Masters Only then.

I dont think it actually has to finish the phrase "This song is for (Difficulty)".

I'd rather see one/two word difficulties, like on any console video game, lets say Halo for example. One word difficulties, Easy, Normal, Heroic, and Legendary. Now these are sorta copyrighted I would assume, so rule them out for songs, but its not like the difficulty has a phrase to go along with it. Such as this difficulty is for (Difficulty name). Or it wouldnt make sense.

"This difficulty is for Legendary(ies?)" Not much sense there.

My point is, it's a song rating, not a phrase filler.

Edit: To me, there would only be able to be one song labeled "Easiest" and one song labeled "Hardest". Now it's not easy to say which song is the easiest, but obviously vRofl is the hardest. So if anything, vRofl should get the "Hardest" label. Maybe Free Space or Power would get the "Easiest", if things went that way.

[Patashu]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

They're only 'Easiest' and 'Hardest' in a loose sense, relative to everything else as a group, not an utterly, completely superlative sense. We do have three Easiest songs, after all, and one of them is clearly harder than the others.

[foilman8805]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I don't think restricting Easiest and Hardest to one song is a good idea and it's not really logical. I think you're being a bit too literal. They can have more than one song in them, and they should be comparable in difficulty, i.e. RATO, DP, and vROFL are all 'Hardest'.

[TC_Halogen]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

like on any console video game, lets say Halo for example.

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Well, didn't Halo have a legendary difficulty choice anyway?

Also, the For Legends Only is seeming like the best choice to me, even though the acronym is a bit over used.

I know hardest would fit too, Easiest is the lowest, Hardest is the highest...but the name just doesn't feel right to me. Nothing against the choice, but I simply think there's something better. Not that I could come up with it anyway...I suck at naming things.

[Zybanthia]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

They're only 'Easiest' and 'Hardest' in a loose sense, relative to everything else as a group, not an utterly, completely superlative sense. We do have three Easiest songs, after all, and one of them is clearly harder than the others.

I actually thought of it this way myself, but if you think of it as the easiest difficulty rating, then it can make more sense to have more than one. If you're looking at it as the easiest song, then it doesn't make sense.

[Kairon]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Oh snap, this is getting intense. Personally, I like:

Legendary
For Legends Only
Hardest
Anything else (Insane/Deadly/Intense/Crazy/etc.)

...in that order. Legendary, as far as I'm concerned, is a perfect 13th difficulty name. It conveys a feeling of intense difficulty and insane skill, and while it is slightly more ambiguous than Hardest, I think it just feels more appropriate. While songs like vROFL, DP, and RATO may technically be the Hardest songs in the game, they feel Legendary. And I think "a Legendary AAA" seems more epic and appropriate than "a Hardest AAA" when considering the material. (Not that there necessarily will be any Legendary AAAs.) FLO works too, and provides a nice 3-letter acronym, although we don't necessarily need another 'For ___s Only' difficulty. Hardest is the most logical of the group, and does its purpose just fine, although I don't think it's nearly as exciting or interesting as Legendary. And, as far as I'm concerned, anything else on the list is just a step down from Legendary.

[spEXartELITan]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

I dont think it actually has to finish the phrase "This song is for (Difficulty)". My point is, it's a song rating, not a phrase filler.

I'm not sure why I put it this way, but what I really meant instead of finishing the phrase this song is is that the difficulties are adjectives. Master and Guru don't sound very striking or forceful by themselves, even though because we've seen these words for so long any mention of them will bring back what songs have caused us to associate them with. Whenever I saw the word guru before I thought of like fishing guru, but when used in the phrase For Gurus Only it made wonder what level of intimidation a song like this would bring.

"This difficulty is for Legendary(ies?)" Not much sense there.

For Legends Only sounds good

I also want to add that the term "Hard" can be viewed as "Difficult", and we have a "Difficult" and "Very Difficult" category already. So it makes even more sense when looked at in spEXartELITan's logic.

I also wondered whether Hard was in this case synonymous with Difficult, but you first learn when you're little the terms Easy and Hard for comparing difficulty, so Hard does not seem like a very worthy term

Hardest is the highest...but the name just doesn't feel right to me.

if you can handle that difficulty since

I think the reason why the generic term easy is used to describe the lower difficulty songs while a more specific term like guru instead of the more generic term hard is used to describe higher difficulty songs because a specific cool title sounds more rewarding as opposed to a degrading specific title for the lower difficulty songs like pansy.

Easy, Normal, Heroic, and Legendary.

Even with Halo more generic terms like Easy and Normal are used with lower difficulties to give a sense of being plain and more specific terms like Heroic and Legendary are used with higher difficulties to give a sense of reward. Although Normal was probably cast out for a song's difficulty because it could be seen as saying the song is just normal or average, which probably wasn't used for this reason as well, song.

Legendary, as far as I'm concerned, is a perfect 13th difficulty name.

I think the difficulty of the Halo campaign was described in this way because you aren't comparing yourself to others, and it feels satisfying to say that you made the legendary story become a reality. Also saying For Beginners probably directs first time players and gives them some needed encouragement since this game is all skill and no story, although if this isn't taken into account it would probably make sense to take it out and shift the difficulties to add Very Tricky.This is also probably why in multiplayer you are described as a rank or actual noun like a general, since you can then look up this tangible person online. Since FFR is more similar to a multiplayer game, For Legends Only would make sense since you can find one of these legends by typing MrRubix in the profile search.

[DossarLX ODI]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

Some suggestions I came up with

- Instead of For Legends only, we can make it just plain "Legendary"
- Extreme
- Dangerous

That type of thing, one word descriptions XD

Stepmania 3.9 has a max difficulty display of 15, and FFR only has 12 so we coul make it 15 ?_?

1 Easiest
2 For Beginners
3 Very Easy (Could this be changed to "simple" or something? lol)
4 Easy
5 Standard
6 Tricky
7 Difficult
8 Very Difficult
9 Challenging
10 Very Challenging
11 For Masters Only
12 For Guru's Only
13 Extreme
14 Insane
15 Legendary

[[TeRa]]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

very danger

Anyways, here's my thoughts on this, considering we have very challenging to for masters only, obviously there needs to be something one step below master, therefore, for slaves only.

hehe, In all honesty though I'm all for for experts only, would it be like VC 68-73, FEO 74-77, FMO 78-83, FGO 84+?

[TC_Halogen]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

B&.

JX mentioned that the difficulty additions aren't happening though. I think it's a better idea to debate what the 13th level will be, and unfortunately for TeRa, I don't think there will be an 'FSO' rating. =O

Legendary, or For Legends Only. One sounds more corny than the other. Your choice.

[TC_Halogen]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

B&.

JX mentioned that the difficulty additions aren't happening though. I think it's a better idea to debate what the 13th level will be, and unfortunately for TeRa, I don't think there will be an 'FSO' rating. =O

Legendary, or For Legends Only. One sounds more corny than the other. Your choice.

[ShadowX2D]

Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2

One word difficulties, Easy, Normal, Heroic, and Legendary. Now these are sorta copyrighted I would assume, so rule them out for songs,

Tried not to start something new, hopefully, if Legendary is accepted, we don't get in a fight with Bungie.

I really dont think another For ___ Only label should be put in, because it just seems more intimidating to have a one word label, with a word that follows the lines of "Legendary, Insane, Intense, and/or Ultimate"

Somehow a one word difficulty for the highest songs in FFR would seem like the limit. When I was a n00b I didnt know the difference from FMO and FGO, but if I saw "Legendary" or "Insane" on a song I would almost immediately know that its the highest difficulty.