Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

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  • dore
    caveman pornstar
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Music Producer
    • Feb 2006
    • 6317

    #16
    Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

    All you have to do is get some free midi analyzing software (even FL will work too) and use that to figure out BPMs.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IREnpHco9mw

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    • hi19hi19
      lol happy
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 12194

      #17
      Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?


      Eubie Blake masterpiece. Perfect for stepping.


      EDIT- Dore... I've tried that. I used Finale 2005 and FL and Sibaleus, it's not as easy as you'd think. In addition to the BPM changes, the notes of a live recorded session put into a MIDI hardly ever fall on the beat. So even if you have the BPM if the MIDI file itself, it hardly ever does you any good. At least, for me, it wasn't turning out right.
      Last edited by hi19hi19; 09-3-2008, 03:58 PM.


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      • Tasselfoot
        Retired BOSS
        FFR Simfile Author
        • Jul 2003
        • 25185

        #18
        Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

        Originally posted by who_cares973
        i'll try stepping this after i finish la campanella
        man. i was trying to get Reach to step La Campanella 2+ years ago... back when I had asked him to do Turkish March. That and Lost Penny.


        But... yea... this and really any other of Bill's MIDIs... you need a high quality stepfiler to do the chart. the BPM changes are likely quite rough.

        As someone else said... test out DDReam. That's what jx used for the OMW v2 BPM changes, and that turned out real well.
        RIP

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        • behanjc
          stargroup & me are <3'ers
          FFR Simfile Author
          • Jun 2006
          • 1546

          #19
          Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

          Does anyone have a very good method of analyzing all of a midi's BPM changes. So far, the best thing I've found is Sibelius. If you show hidden objects or something, it will show the BPM markings on the sheet music from the imported midi. However the presentation is hardly ideal (I.E. the BPM markings will be something like increasing from 118.94594, 129.32094, 145.235436456, but all in close proximity and overlap each other. Kind of hard to explain.)
          Also, it doesn't indicate the exact second at which the BPM change takes place, rather it marks it on sheet music and often comes between 2 notes and the exact timing is indistinguishable.

          If anyone could report a very good method of finding the BPM changes in a midi, I would appreciate it.
          Last edited by behanjc; 09-3-2008, 10:26 PM.

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          • lxDestinyxl
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2006
            • 3247

            #20
            Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

            Originally posted by who_cares973
            i'll try stepping this after i finish la campanella
            ... It better be good. It's one of my favourite pieces on piano. I can play most of the song on piano too.

            Also, how are you stepping the right hand of page 4? If done properly, I'm guessing LOTS of runningman and jacks + jump jacks.
            I can't wait.

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            • who_cares973
              FFR Player
              • Aug 2006
              • 15407

              #21
              Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

              Originally posted by lxDestinyxl
              ... It better be good. It's one of my favourite pieces on piano. I can play most of the song on piano too.

              Also, how are you stepping the right hand of page 4? If done properly, I'm guessing LOTS of runningman and jacks + jump jacks.
              I can't wait.
              there's lots of all that lol

              i gotta stop working so i can finish stepping D:

              also scott tested what i have so far and he said its coming out good :3

              hope you can trust his judgement

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              • hi19hi19
                lol happy
                FFR Simfile Author
                • Oct 2005
                • 12194

                #22
                Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

                Originally posted by behanjc
                Does anyone have a very good method of analyzing all of a midi's BPM changes. So far, the best thing I've found is Sibelius. If you show hidden objects or something, it will show the BPM markings on the sheet music from the imported midi. However the presentation is hardly ideal (I.E. the BPM markings will be something like increasing from 118.94594, 129.32094, 145.235436456, but all in close proximity and overlap each other. Kind of hard to explain.)
                Also, it doesn't indicate the exact second at which the BPM change takes place, rather it marks it on sheet music and often comes between 2 notes and the exact timing is indistinguishable.

                If anyone could report a very good method of finding the BPM changes in a midi, I would appreciate it.
                Like I said, I've tried a bunch of programs. Perhaps there's some like, "pro MIDI analyzer software" that can do these things.


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                • Tasselfoot
                  Retired BOSS
                  FFR Simfile Author
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 25185

                  #23
                  Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

                  RIP

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                  • Zap_Track
                    FFR Veteran
                    • May 2008
                    • 466

                    #24
                    Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

                    I gonna try it.
                    Since I dont have anything other to do....


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                    • Xandertrax
                      om nom nom
                      FFR Simfile Author
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 1495

                      #25
                      Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

                      Fruity Loops shows all midi bpm changes without that much hassle, you just have to go along with the midi while you're stepping. I did that for SQuF, and it worked out fine.

                      And you don't even have to illigally download, the demo does it perfectly fine.

                      Also, Zez Confrey? Any Dizzy Fingers? I've played that one on the piano, and it would be fun to step. I might try this.

                      And converterwise, the easiest way i've found is itunes.
                      Last edited by Xandertrax; 09-4-2008, 01:52 PM.

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                      • Tasselfoot
                        Retired BOSS
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 25185

                        #26
                        Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

                        my dad is crazy about Dizzy Fingers. that's the back story on how I found out about Confrey in the first place. So he tells me about DF, I find Bill's site and listen to it... only to see that it's basically all scales. So, that would probably be fun and impressive on a piano... but doesn't seem that great for stepping. So I listened to a bunch of other Confrey, and found some of his other novelty pieces more suited for stepping. Such as this or Kitten on the Keys.

                        as of now, this is our only permission. Can seek more from Bill on an as-desired basis. The other, bigger, issue with Dizzy Fingers is that it's from 1923... and, as such, is still copyrighted.

                        edit: re-listening to dizzy fingers... not all scales. and man, it would create some crazy weird runningman patterns, from the sound of it.
                        RIP

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                        • Heartseeker7
                          Untz Untz Untz Untz
                          FFR Music Producer
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 571

                          #27
                          Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

                          This stuff sounds awsome!
                          I can't wait to try it out on the game.
                          Hopefully it doesnt come out as a skill token requiring me to like fc every classical song.
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                          • dood gone krazee
                            RATOOOOOOOOO
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • May 2007
                            • 1939

                            #28
                            Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

                            Ohhhhh myyyy gooooood the song hi19 suggested has so many changes its ridiculous. Would take a lot of dedication man, jx should step it.
                            -4th Official Tournament Expert Divison Champion-

                            Originally posted by Sir_Thomas
                            Dood... you done gone got yourself krazee.
                            Originally posted by robertsona
                            I hear back in 12 AD Jesus Himself sent an FGO to Tass and it got a 9 by JX

                            "[++] 9/10
                            Very good file but not japanese enough ps hi jesus"

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                            • robertsona
                              missa in h-moll
                              FFR Simfile Author
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 4000

                              #29
                              Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

                              ok ddream sucks i'm not stepping this

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                              • dood gone krazee
                                RATOOOOOOOOO
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                • May 2007
                                • 1939

                                #30
                                Re: Anyone Wanna Step Some 1920s Novelty Piano?

                                Originally posted by robertsona
                                ok ddream sucks i'm not stepping this
                                Are you serious? DDREAM is most likely one of the best step editors out there. Way better than SM Editor. You're probably just saying this because you have no idea how to use it.

                                Try it out. READ THE TUTORIALS. This program is amazing.
                                -4th Official Tournament Expert Divison Champion-

                                Originally posted by Sir_Thomas
                                Dood... you done gone got yourself krazee.
                                Originally posted by robertsona
                                I hear back in 12 AD Jesus Himself sent an FGO to Tass and it got a 9 by JX

                                "[++] 9/10
                                Very good file but not japanese enough ps hi jesus"

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