dbziscool - Newer Kamelot are starting to display more prog tones alongside their power metal roots.
Also, Mr Bungle isn't really Prog-Metal. They are everything. I mean none of their albums could be called metal. California is calm bit of everything. Disco Volante is messed up avant-garde mixture of everything and their self-titled is crazy avant-garde circus music. Though if you listen to their debut ep "The Raging Wrath Of The Easter Bunny" that's pretty much death-metal (what they started out as).
dbziscool - Newer Kamelot are starting to display more prog tones alongside their power metal roots.
Also, Mr Bungle isn't really Prog-Metal. They are everything. I mean none of their albums could be called metal. California is calm bit of everything. Disco Volante is messed up avant-garde mixture of everything and their self-titled is crazy avant-garde circus music. Though if you listen to their debut ep "The Raging Wrath Of The Easter Bunny" that's pretty much death-metal (what they started out as).
Kamelot is a little more "progy" but at heart they are still power metal. Honestly I won't ever consider them to be prog due to the fact there drummer doesn't seem to know any time signature other than four four.(My opinion)
Bungle is everything there for can be considered a form of metal. Yes, alot of songs are Rock or chaotic but listion to songs like My ass is on fire or most of their first self titled album. The song Travolta though soft can be considered a form of prog metal due to the fact it is slightly to heavy to be considered anything else(Also during the time it was quite heavy even compared to most american mainstream bands at the time. Mr. Bungles later stuff 1995 and beyond is were they started geting weirder. Plus after meeting Mike Patton himself in Beverly hills he himself declared that they were once considered prog metal from the start to 1991. There for they can be considered prog metal.
For example, Testament is very well known as a thrash metal band. How ever There later music is similer to Old school death metal. does this mean they are not considered thrash? Of course not. even Sodom can arguably be considered death metal.
Translation: Due to Bungle being considered Metal at one point in their time, you can consider them as prog metal due to how heavy the self titled album was. Take a listion to track nine. It has plently of thrash elements to it.
Kamelot is a little more "progy" but at heart they are still power metal. Honestly I won't ever consider them to be prog due to the fact there drummer doesn't seem to know any time signature other than four four.(My opinion)
Bungle is everything there for can be considered a form of metal. Yes, alot of songs are Rock or chaotic but listion to songs like My ass is on fire or most of their first self titled album. The song Travolta though soft can be considered a form of prog metal due to the fact it is slightly to heavy to be considered anything else(Also during the time it was quite heavy even compared to most american mainstream bands at the time. Mr. Bungles later stuff 1995 and beyond is were they started geting weirder. Plus after meeting Mike Patton himself in Beverly hills he himself declared that they were once considered prog metal from the start to 1991. There for they can be considered prog metal.
For example, Testament is very well known as a thrash metal band. How ever There later music is similer to Old school death metal. does this mean they are not considered thrash? Of course not. even Sodom can arguably be considered death metal.
Translation: Due to Bungle being considered Metal at one point in their time, you can consider them as prog metal due to how heavy the self titled album was. Take a listion to track nine. It has plently of thrash elements to it.
IMO prog is not about time signature but about variety: While all other genres concentrate on a single mood or emotion throughout the song (somestimes two or three, but rarely), prog will incorporate many different styles and genres into its songs. But you knew that already :P
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IMO prog is not about time signature but about variety: While all other genres concentrate on a single mood or emotion throughout the song (somestimes two or three, but rarely), prog will incorporate many different styles and genres into its songs. But you knew that already :P
Indeed true. but (opinion) The time signature is what makes a song into experimental prog. Other wise it's mostly just a basic song structure(My opinion). Yes, Kamelot has gotten more progy but they are still power metal regardless.
I love every type of metal but metal is metal. So why classify it when you can just bang your head to each one till you puke
Weather the genre sucks or not, It's attracting more metalheads. Hopefully hip-hop/rap will die because I hate it.
That's just my opinion.
-XxXmetalheadXxX
Originally posted by V-Ormix
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Probably because certain metal was not intended for head-banging. Just a thought though.
That may be true, didn't think about that but I still like every genre of metal. Either way If I like what I'm hearing I'm going to head-bang. I like atleast one band in every genre even if you do consider it a "bad" genre.
-XxXmetalheadXxX
The only thing death metal excels at it being generic and repetitive.
While I actually might agree that death metal has one of the higher sucky bands/good bands ratios compared to other metal genres (obviously excluding -core stuff), I hardly think all death metal is generic or repetitive. Really, when done right, it can be absolutely phenomenal.
That certainly goes without saying, but I bring it up only because frankly I think the gems are common enough to make it worthwhile and be my favorite metal genre as well. I mean, can you tell me something like Altars of Madness or Left Hand Path or practically any Bolt Thrower album aren't just absolutely astounding?
Originally posted by ShAiOnEi
Right because we all know that most progressive metal and power metal isn't generic...ahem *cough* "Blind Guardian"
This is true, though I'd hardly use Blind Guardian as an example of a generic band since they're positively brilliant. And again I'd probably agree that death metal has more terrible bands whereas power metal might just be saturated with mediocrity.
The scientist does not study nature because it is useful to do so. He studies it because he takes pleasure in it, and he takes pleasure in it because it is beautiful.
Right because we all know that most progressive metal and power metal isn't generic...ahem *cough* "Blind Guardian"
I don't see how ANY true prog metal can be generic. It's against the ideology of prog, against its driving force... and Blind Guardian is definitely far from anything generic. Each album is different and varied within it's own content (except maybe the first two, arguably the first four).
It's true though, that power metal has an incredibly amount of generic bands, but I'd say DM has more, because they all try to be brootal and agressive like the early bands but only end up playing the same riff over and over again.
But if you want to start listing generic bands, you'll still be there tomorrow.
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I don't see how ANY true prog metal can be generic. It's against the ideology of prog, against its driving force... and Blind Guardian is definitely far from anything generic. Each album is different and varied within it's own content (except maybe the first two, arguably the first four).
It's true though, that power metal has an incredibly amount of generic bands, but I'd say DM has more, because they all try to be brootal and agressive like the early bands but only end up playing the same riff over and over again.
But if you want to start listing generic bands, you'll still be there tomorrow.
I enjoy death metal more because of an attitude of not having to have a catchy pop to it as otherwise in mainstream music you're always going to have to get. Progressive and power metal always in my opinion tends to stick to a strict code of melody and a catch pop whatever it may be they atleast have either of those things. Death metal on the other hand comes up with more rhythm based riffs and technical drum patterns and usually don't have a melody. In fact it doesn't occur to me that they are generic at all for that one fact. They don't try to sound like anything that would attract mainstream listeners because in all reality it's not for them. Death metal comes from an antisociety way of thinking and it has always been that same mindset today. If you read the lyrics from the songs of the band Death you can see how it relates to my previous sentence. In all matters of opinions we can continue to argue about different genres and how which is better but it's all preference and taste and I like the taste of Death metal.
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