Super Smash Brothers Brawl

[zidart]

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i agree but some of his attacks are really strong...short range is his weakness while strenght is his virtue, this is all to keep balanced characters

[Afrobean]

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I had a bit of trouble when I got Lucario randomly chosen for me, and it really seems like all of his ground attacks are utterly worthless for specifically the reason Squeek said.

His B seemed to be pretty useful for the same reason I've taken to using Pikachu's B, but it's not enough when his ground attacks are so bad. Seriously, his aerial down A is good, but he's so floaty and I seem to recall having a hard time timing it properly (and I already have problem timing many aerials, particularly meteor smashes, regardless of silly floaty jumps). And unless I'm mistaken, his floatiness also caused problems for me to time his other aerials as well.

And to be totally honest, I didn't even notice getting stronger or anything as I took more damage. It should be MUCH more of it, because at present even heavy damage (ie enough to be on the verge of death) isn't even all that much of a difference.

ps I tried his down B more than a few times because I figured it was a counter like the Fire Emblem kids, but couldn't get it to work for me at all

pps i was doing a 1 on 1 versus a level 9 CPU randomly chosen when I played as Lucario, and I won it. Incidentally, I later got Jigglypuff randomly chosen for me and LOST rofl... I thought Jigglypuff's aerials had high priority what happen main screen etc etc

[Squeek]

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His version of counter (Double Team) is extremely useful for boss and mini-boss SSE trophy collection. Since you can't use A-attacks and sometimes you just have to bring trophy stands into the fight with you.

I recall only using down+b when I was fighting Greap (the big roll-y thing with two axes mounted on it). No time to use any other attacks.

[MystictheHedgehog]

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When fighting a good Lucario, it seems that the time window to counter is bigger than that of Marth or Ike, just slightly harder to time...I could be completely wrong there. I hate playing against Lucario though, especially someone who knows how to use him. But I suck with him...he is too...I don't know. I stick to Toon Link, Marth, Pit, and Pikachu for the majority anyway.

[Shoe The Almighty]

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Lucario seems like a more kickass version of Mewtwo. Lucario has good moves, but he's to slow to me.....and annoying. I swear that any character my friend Luis picks, he makes it annoying. Since he picks Lucario most of the time, it's his annyoing character.

Ahem (http://www.ffr4.com/vbz/showthread.php?t=91270)

[Flaming_Dingleberry]

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Ok?

You might not have mastered his arrows in your time playing, but they can go as far as you could possibly want them to.


Yeah, a lot of characters have up B that aren't useful in dealing damage.

Oh and hey, I was talking to banditcom earlier and he told me about how Pikachu can use his Up B into the ground and go into an attack from there. I don't think it's all that useful, and is more trouble than it's worth, however, I get the feeling that I'm overlooking something. Does anyone have any input here?

I'm not too big on projectiles, except R.O.B.'s spinning tops or lasers. I haven't looked at how much damage it does, but it would have to do quite a bit for me to use it. I use Pikachu's up B as if it were Fox's side B, except he can do it twice and end up in the same place he was before.

[Telvanni_guard]

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Ignore damage and look more into spacing. Meaning you control what distance you fight at.

[zidart]

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Ignore damage and look more into spacing. Meaning you control what distance you fight at.

that's all there is to it when it comes to using lucario. though personally i don't really use lucario that much if i get a random match with him i wouldn't complain either

[ducky285]

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Oh and hey, I was talking to banditcom earlier and he told me about how Pikachu can use his Up B into the ground and go into an attack from there. I don't think it's all that useful, and is more trouble than it's worth, however, I get the feeling that I'm overlooking something. Does anyone have any input here?

It's called a Quick Attack Cancel (QAC) and it gives him a great approach against campers. QAC into d-smash is nuts.

Also, on the subject of Lucario, his power is severely lacking until he's at high damage which is why I don't like using him. His Aura Sphere is an OK projectile but it has crap priority. Even at full power, 180% damage, a simple jab or normally weak projectile with cancel it out completely.

The one thing I do like it his air game. It feels pretty smooth and you can SHFF with d-airs and f-airs. I also heard you can chaingrab with side-B (Force Palm up-close) at low percentages.

[korny]

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Lucario's counter is pretty much useless if you figure out the timing to dodge it.

[zidart]

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Lucario's counter is pretty much useless if you figure out the timing to dodge it.

ohh but there always ways to suprise people... then again it is useless if you just grab him on the ground (on the air just wait)

[ducky285]

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IIRC one of Lucario's taunts kinda looks like the counter. Possibly a way to juke your opponent? Or am I not remembering his taunt correctly? XD

[Afrobean]

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It's called a Quick Attack Cancel (QAC) and it gives him a great approach against campers. QAC into d-smash is nuts.

You say that like that name is OFFICIAL or something.

But wait. How can you do it into ground moves? All I've gotten out of it is down aerial slamming instantly into the ground, and a little bobbing flip thing that I don't think is even an attack.

Also, when you say "camper" what specifically do you mean by it? People guarding the edge (not grabbing the edge to block it, but literally guarding it and attacking you as you approach the edge to return).

EDIT: I just googled it and got this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GshUovlVOew

Seeing this used like that makes me feel that I'd be cheating as much as wavedashers if I used this against someone.

[korny]

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Why would you feel like you're cheating if all you're doing is utilizing one of your special attacks to move faster and more effective? I'm glad i watched that video because i now know to use my pikachu better.

[zidart]

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nah that's not actually cheating, that's his up-B move, it doesn't look like a glitch either, oh well each one on their own, the objective is to play in a fun way. if you like it just keep playing like you want