Super Smash Brothers Brawl

[tsugomaru]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Because I play using items. However, using items is clearly cheating. It must be some kind of huge glitch.

~Tsugomaru

[l2awr]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Because I play using items. However, using items is clearly cheating. It must be some kind of huge glitch.

~Tsugomaru

Using items isn't cheating. Its just not in competitive play.

[tsugomaru]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

thank you for clearing that up

i was totally confused with the difference there

~Tsugomaru

[l2awr]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

thank you for clearing that up

i was totally confused with the difference there

~Tsugomaru

No problem

[zidart]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

the point is... glitches are that things that were not meant to be in the game and that "competitive" gamers take advantage of that just because they can't win with the normal rules and techniques of the game

[l2awr]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

the point is... glitches are that things that were not meant to be in the game and that "competitive" gamers take advantage of that just because they can't win with the normal rules and techniques of the game

Meant to be in the game.

Is that seriously your argument?

""competitive" gamers take advantage of that just because they can't win with the normal rules and techniques of the game"

Was that serious?

[zidart]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Meant to be in the game.

Is that seriously your argument?

""competitive" gamers take advantage of that just because they can't win with the normal rules and techniques of the game"

Was that serious?

yes isn't true that some pro melee players are not gonna play brawl because it doesn't have wavedash??? and also a long time ago you said that maybe someone is gonna find more glitches in brawl....ergo or you really need glitches or you just can't stand playing like meant to be

[l2awr]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

yes isn't true that some pro melee players are not gonna play brawl because it doesn't have wavedash??? and also a long time ago you said that maybe someone is gonna find more glitches in brawl....ergo or you really need glitches or you just can't stand playing like meant to be

I have no idea. All of my competitive friends can't wait to play brawl. We all even chipped in to buy a Japanese Wii and Japanese version of brawl so that we can play a month before it comes out. Just because there aren't any glitches(yet) doesn't make it non competitive. Yes it will close the skill gap a bit, but there are still mind games, predicting your opponent, knowing your character and the physics enough to pull off combos and from what I heard there is L-Canceling, but not with the L button.

"Because the game creator did not intend glitches to be in the game." is a bad argument because those glitches can make the game better and add a greater depth into the game. Which in turn has competitive players play and practice more to master those extra techniques to increase their skill gaps between other players.

I'm more than sure a game creator wants his players to put more time into his game.

[MystictheHedgehog]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Sorry, but I tend to side with Squeek on this one.
We have established the fact it is a glitch, yes. But your definition explains it clearly to me.

A glitch is merely an unintended result of game code.

UNINTENDED result of game code. It wasn't supposed to be there. The developers and programmers did not mean for it to be there. This is where your SC comparison becomes invalid. Guard Impact was intended to be in the game. Wavedashing and such, was not.

Yes, I do know how to wavedash. But I don't use it at all, just for that point. It isn't supposed to be there, why try to exploit the glitch? Why not just play purely, instead of exploiting the glitches in the game to make your play better?

But no, I am not condemning glitches to never be used, sometimes they are fun to just mess around with. But not when playing competitively.

Just my opinion though.

[zidart]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

I have no idea. All of my competitive friends can't wait to play brawl. We all even chipped in to buy a Japanese Wii and Japanese version of brawl so that we can play a month before it comes out. Just because there aren't any glitches(yet) doesn't make it non competitive. Yes it will close the skill gap a bit, but there are still mind games, predicting your opponent, knowing your character and the physics enough to pull off combos and from what I heard there is L-Canceling, but not with the L button.

"Because the game creator did not intend glitches to be in the game." is a bad argument because those glitches can make the game better and add a greater depth into the game. Which in turn has competitive players play and practice more to master those extra techniques to increase their skill gaps between other players.

I'm more than sure a game creator wants his players to put more time into his game.

yeah but he didn't want glitches wich is why he eliminated them and yeah that's why he made tons and tons of modes to put more time into the game....but no glitches are not techniques they are just that errors, mistakes that YOU take advantage and call everyone that doesn't like them noobs for not using them, and i agree that glitches can be compared to esteroids

[l2awr]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

yeah but he didn't want glitches wich is why he eliminated them and yeah that's why he made tons and tons of modes to put more time into the game....but no glitches are not techniques they are just that errors, mistakes that YOU take advantage and call everyone that doesn't like them noobs for not using them, and i agree that glitches can be compared to esteroids

They probably can be compared to steroids because you know steroids do not make you win games. It helps you increase your strength faster which can make a sport much more competitive. I'm sure they aren't healthy though which is probably why they are banned from athletics. I never really looked into steroids so I won't argue about it. Although there are debates on whether or not they should be allowed.

Also I don't find "modes" fun. I don't play smash brothers to play the modes or single player lol...I play to compete.

[zidart]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

They probably can be compared to steroids because you know steroids do not make you win games. It helps you increase your strength faster which can make a sport much more competitive. I'm sure they aren't healthy though which is probably why they are banned from athletics. I never really looked into steroids so I won't argue about it. Although there are debates on whether or not they should be allowed.

Also I don't find "modes" fun. I don't play smash brothers to play the modes or single player lol...I play to compete.

woow then you are the one that it's not trying to practice more with the game or get the 100% out of it XD.. because "modes" are almost 90% of the game

[l2awr]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

woow then you are the one that it's not trying to practice more with the game or get the 100% out of it XD.. because "modes" are almost 90% of the game

Modes aren't practice...and hell no I'm not trying to get the "most" out of the game. I'm trying to be better at it than everyone that plays it so I NEVER lose.

[tsugomaru]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Wavedash Argument Brawl

Here we go.

~Tsugomaru

[zidart]

Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Modes aren't practice...and hell no I'm not trying to get the "most" out of the game. I'm trying to be better at it than everyone that plays it so I NEVER lose.

ok let me ask you something.... do you play without items and in simple stages??? and if so do you still consider yourself the best??? and also do you know that even in 4V4 battles the game is pretty much random?