Legal Catfishophile

[Wlfwnd91]

Re: Legal Pedophile

You all are arguing about morality and who's right and who's wrong.

None of that matters. What truly matters is the safety of the kids. Though the alleged pedophile himself MAY not be a danger, he is inciting others to do crimes themselves. He has a website where he posts seemingly normal pictures of kids, and he gives names and locations of where you could troll for kids. That in itself is a danger to kids. That in itself should get him arrested.

Maybe you should say something other than what you've already said in here once. What you just did is no better than a double post.

If this man truly has never committed a sexual act upon a child then he obviously has control over his desires, and probably knows many others who are in the same boat as him, who he knows, would never harm or rape a child. Though his postings may cause some to go trolling and harm a child, it's likely intended for those like him. Should he keep all his information to himself simply because of a few bad apples?

How exactly is he a threat to the children if all he's doing is looking at them? You'll have to clarify for me, I can't remember someone ever being even slightly injured because someone looked at them.

The same way someone with a gun is a threat to people. It doesn't mean a danger, but someone with a gun is a threat. A lot of people with guns don't harm other people. But, the fact that some do, causes the many that don't, to be a threat. He's not saying he believes all pedophiles are dangerous (I don't think.) As he said, he chose his words correctly.

[ShadowBlink]

Re: Legal Pedophile

I know what I posted is almost a duplication of my previous post, but still.
My point is still true.
Does it really matter who he intends for the info to be seen by? Don't you think that he would know that it is inevitable that some harmful pedophiles will take a glance and use the info as a tool? Of course he knows that.
It's like leaving a piece of gold out in the open for your friends to get. Someone else is going to get it. ALWAYS.

[Wlfwnd91]

Re: Legal Pedophile

I know what I posted is almost a duplication of my previous post, but still.
My point is still true.
Does it really matter who he intends for the info to be seen by? Don't you think that he would know that it is inevitable that some harmful pedophiles will take a glance and use the info as a tool? Of course he knows that.
It's like leaving a piece of gold out in the open for your friends to get. Someone else is going to get it. ALWAYS.

So we should censor music, movies, advertisements, and everything else, because someone is going to get to it that will end up using it for a wrong purpose. I see where you're coming from now. However, I heavily disagree. I think censorship of any kind is wrong, but you seem to be a full supporter of it.

[devonin]

Re: Legal Pedophile

So because he thinks about something you find offensive, he should be held criminally liable, because since he's thinking about it, he -might- one day do it...

Slope, meet Slippery. You two will get along great.

[Kilgamayan]

Re: Legal Pedophile

here comes the thought police train woo woo!

About the only thing they could possibly get him for is some form of disturbing the peace or public nuisance or whatever, and I don't know the exact wording of those laws.

[ShadowBlink]

Re: Legal Pedophile

I'm not a big fan of censorship, either, when it's not that big of a deal.
However, this is a big deal.
For most media, a lot of things can be harmful to someone in someway. However, sometimes they benefit one side more than the other. What I mean by that, is that even though media is double-edged, it can be more good/bad for one side of the audience than the other.
One side is that someone wants to watch the movie for entertainment, whereas the second side is that someone will watch it for baddie ideas. I think that for the most part, the media will entertain the first side more than the second.
So therefore, it's fine. Because it's inevitable that everything will have a "bad" side. But, if it leans to the "good" side more than the "bad" side, that's okay to a certain length. Because even though it can be bad, at least it's not very bad.
But, the alleged pedophile's actions lean far more to the side in which harmful pedophiles reside. That side I will call "bad". Because it leans more to the use of pedophiles, it should be gone. It ill harm too many in the future if what we think is true.

You're right though. All media can be bad. But the very bad one's should not be used.

[Wlfwnd91]

Re: Legal Pedophile

So, you consider it to be "Very" bad. You're using only biased opinion to support your logic. That doesn't really work here in CT.

Many serial killers admitted to having read Serial Killer books and researching the topic before-hand. Should we ban books referring to Serial Killers? Millions of kids cut themselves to scream-o music. Should we ban it because it's a bad influence on teenagers? A lot of murderers listen to suggestive rap. I suppose we should ban that too. Some kids burned down their house one time while trying to reenact what they saw on South Park. BLOCK IT!

All you see are the pedophiles that get caught for acting on their impulses. Well, guess what. There's millions more out there that have perfect control over themselves. This guy has that sort of control, but he's getting media attention? Something's not right here, he MUST be a bad person. There's no such thing as a good pedophile!

That's what I'm getting from your posts.

[Relambrien]

Re: Legal Pedophile

He may not be an immediate [i]danger[/b] to kids, but he's still very much a threat to them. I chose my words carefully.

And if you really think that a person who readily admits that he trolls for children is not a threat to kids, well, I feel sorry for your kids.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

From thesaurus.reference.com:

Main Entry: danger
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: hazard
Synonyms: crisis, double trouble*, dynamite, emergency, endangerment, exigency, exposure, hot potato*, insecurity, instability, jeopardy, menace, peril, pitfall, possibility, precariousness, precipice, probability, risk, risky business*, slipperiness, storm, storm clouds, thin ice*, threat, uncertainty, venture, vulnerability
Antonyms: safety, security

Note that threat and danger are synonyms.

I do have some things I want to say, but I can't word them well at all. If I can figure something out, I'll post it.

[ShadowBlink]

Re: Legal Pedophile

*sigh*
By very bad, I meant that it leads more to the use of pedophile assaults.. I just couldn't find a word to use. How about the "entertainment" side and the "harmful" side? Is that better?

And, what you're doing is just debating everything I'm saying. You're not trying to fina a solution. You just like arguing.

[Kilgamayan]

Re: Legal Pedophile

Well, it's clear he is causing agitation among a good chunk of the populace, intentionally or not. The US does have what essentially amounts to "no trolling" laws in place, I just don't know what extent they go to.

[Wlfwnd91]

Re: Legal Pedophile

*sigh*
By very bad, I meant that it leads more to the use of pedophile assaults.. I just couldn't find a word to use. How about the "entertainment" side and the "harmful" side? Is that better?

And, what you're doing is just debating everything I'm saying. You're not trying to fina a solution. You just like arguing.

Well, you had your solution. "Throw him in jail"

I'm figuring out what your logic behind that solution is. I'm also trying to get you to think with your head and not with your heart. It makes CT a more pleasant place.

[ShadowBlink]

Re: Legal Pedophile

Maybe he doesn't have to go to jail.
All I know is that the websites and info he posts shouldn't be posted. HOW the government will do that, I have no idea. What do you think?

[Dragula219]

Re: Legal Pedophile

The same way someone with a gun is a threat to people. It doesn't mean a danger, but someone with a gun is a threat. A lot of people with guns don't harm other people. But, the fact that some do, causes the many that don't, to be a threat. He's not saying he believes all pedophiles are dangerous (I don't think.) As he said, he chose his words correctly.

Although I agree with you on almost everything you've said so far (which is why I haven't posted), I disagree with this statement. Not all people with guns are a threat, it doesn't matter how you word it. A more correct statement is that a person with a gun is a possible threat. To be threating you have to (Oxford definition): have a hostile or deliberately frightening quality or manner. Simply having a gun does not mean you are hostile or deliberately frightening. This is the same way for a man who's a pedophile.

[GuidoHunter]

Re: Legal Pedophile

From thesaurus.reference.com:

Note that threat and danger are synonyms.

I do have some things I want to say, but I can't word them well at all. If I can figure something out, I'll post it.

Okay, in SOME conceivable context with SOME loose definitions of the words, those two might be synonyms. You'd be a fool to think that that means the two words are interchangeable. Do you also think that warning labels that say "caution", "warning", or "danger" mean the same thing? Because thinking that could kill you.

From dictionary.com (a much much more reliable source when comparing the meanings of two words:

threat:
1. a declaration of an intention or determination to inflict punishment, injury, etc., in retaliation for, or conditionally upon, some action or course; menace:
2. an indication or warning of probable trouble: The threat of a storm was in the air.
3. a person or thing that threatens.

(emphasis mine)
When he says that he trolls for kids, he's indicating that he's a threat to them.

danger:
1. liability or exposure to harm or injury; risk; peril.
2. an instance or cause of peril; menace.

His record shows, however, that he is not an immediate danger to them. That is, he should not be banned from public places which kids frequent. He has shown that he is a threat, and should have an eye kept on him (though not necessarily in a surveillance sense), but not an immediate danger. The instant he actually goes after a kid, though, he is.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[devonin]

Re: Legal Pedophile

From thesaurus.reference.com:

From dictionary.com (a much much more reliable source when comparing the meanings of two words

Just as a note there Guido. These are the same website. The actual URL that going to "dictionary.com" links to is "dictionary.reference.com" and "thesaurus.reference.com" universally uses the exact same database to run.