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  • Kilroy_x
    Little Chief Hare
    • Mar 2005
    • 783

    #586
    Re: Homosexual Marriage

    So, given that your opinion is apparently based on blind conviction AND is potentially harmful to others, it is a pretty straightforward thing to say your opinion is a bad opinion.

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    • animeparadise
      FFR Player
      • Jun 2007
      • 15

      #587
      Re: Homosexual Marriage

      Originally posted by Kilroy_x
      So, given that your opinion is apparently based on blind conviction AND is potentially harmful to others, it is a pretty straightforward thing to say your opinion is a bad opinion.
      It's just an opinion...
      Like you have your OWN opinion I have mine.

      Saying that "I'm against Sex change", Isn't a fact.
      It's MY own opinion, now isn't it.

      Like you might think TV is stupid... Okay!!??! That's your opinion
      On the other hand my opinion would be... That I like TV

      Differen't opinions!




      I can feel the night beginning.
      Separate me from the living.
      Understanding me,
      After all I've seen.
      Piecing every thought together,
      Find the words to make me better.
      If I only knew how to pull myself apart.

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      • animeparadise
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2007
        • 15

        #588
        Re: Homosexual Marriage

        Originally posted by animeparadise
        It's just an opinion...
        Like you have your OWN opinion I have mine.

        Saying that "I'm against Sex change", Isn't a fact.
        It's MY own opinion, now isn't it.

        Like you might think TV is stupid... Okay!!??! That's your opinion
        On the other hand my opinion would be... That I like TV

        Differen't opinions!
        Your making it sound like it's bad to say your own opinion! haha




        I can feel the night beginning.
        Separate me from the living.
        Understanding me,
        After all I've seen.
        Piecing every thought together,
        Find the words to make me better.
        If I only knew how to pull myself apart.

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        • timmy dime
          FFR Player
          • Jun 2007
          • 1

          #589
          Re: Homosexual Marriage

          i havent really thought about homosexualism, is that a word? oh well, but yeah i guess its ok dont really care

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          • Kilroy_x
            Little Chief Hare
            • Mar 2005
            • 783

            #590
            Re: Homosexual Marriage

            Originally posted by animeparadise
            It's just an opinion...
            Like you have your OWN opinion I have mine.
            JUST an opinion? Opinions determine how people behave. Opinions determine whether or not people KILL EACH OTHER. I don't think you fully understand the problems with having and expressing bad opinions, especially from positions of willful ignorance and blind emotion.

            Saying that "I'm against Sex change", Isn't a fact.
            It's MY own opinion, now isn't it.
            And where could your opinion take us? If everyone shared it, perhaps sex changes would be banned. Then perhaps transsexuals would be put in prison. Or perhaps they would receive the death penalty. Or perhaps there would be no need for legal recourse at all because PEOPLE WOULD KILL TRANSSEXUALS WHEREVER THEY FOUND THEM.

            I don't care whether you pass it off as fact or opinion, I care where it leads. In this case it likely leads somewhere bad, so it's very bad for you to have and articulate such an opinion.

            Originally posted by animeparadise
            Your making it sound like it's bad to say your own opinion! haha
            It is most certainly bad to spread an opinion such as the one you have, or even to spread the attitude which allows people to have such blind faith in untested, ignorant, retreatist ways of thinking such as your own.

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            • animeparadise
              FFR Player
              • Jun 2007
              • 15

              #591
              Re: Homosexual Marriage

              Originally posted by Kilroy_x
              JUST an opinion? Opinions determine how people behave. Opinions determine whether or not people KILL EACH OTHER. I don't think you fully understand the problems with having and expressing bad opinions, especially from positions of willful ignorance and blind emotion.



              And where could your opinion take us? If everyone shared it, perhaps sex changes would be banned. Then perhaps transsexuals would be put in prison. Or perhaps they would receive the death penalty. Or perhaps there would be no need for legal recourse at all because PEOPLE WOULD KILL TRANSSEXUALS WHEREVER THEY FOUND THEM.

              I don't care whether you pass it off as fact or opinion, I care where it leads. In this case it likely leads somewhere bad, so it's very bad for you to have and articulate such an opinion.



              It is most certainly bad to spread an opinion such as the one you have, or even to spread the attitude which allows people to have such blind faith in untested, ignorant, retreatist ways of thinking such as your own.
              Hahahahahaha.... Oh please, spear me lol!
              Get some rest. I'm done with this convo... LOL!




              I can feel the night beginning.
              Separate me from the living.
              Understanding me,
              After all I've seen.
              Piecing every thought together,
              Find the words to make me better.
              If I only knew how to pull myself apart.

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              • Kilroy_x
                Little Chief Hare
                • Mar 2005
                • 783

                #592
                Re: Homosexual Marriage

                How open-minded of you. Good riddance.

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                • ToshX
                  FFR Player
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 5111

                  #593
                  Re: Homosexual Marriage

                  What he's saying is that if you're going to express your opinion, you should probably have a good reason for that opinion to back it up. A good reason meaning something besides "oh I just feel that way". I mean yeah, you feel that way, since, after all, it's your opinion, so tell us more. Tell us exactly why you feel that things should be that way.

                  If there is no reason except that you just want it to be that way "just because", then maybe you're better off not stating your opinion.

                  I mean, man, everyone blindly follows SOMETHING "just because" or because other people just tell them to.

                  Are people Christian just because they believe in it? Yeah. Are people atheist just because they believe there is nothing? Yeah. The same could be said about every single religion/non-religion until a god comes down here and smites someone for not believing or until someone proves there is not a god, which would probably be impossible to prove.

                  So really, we all follow SOMETHING blindly, but unless we can back it up, it isn't a good thing to argue.

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                  • Kilroy_x
                    Little Chief Hare
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 783

                    #594
                    Re: Homosexual Marriage

                    I make it a habit to not follow anything blindly if I can help it. If no one questions a given thing I say, or if no one questions it in a way that shows to me faults in my thinking, I continue to believe it. However I also try not to pull ideas out of thin air.

                    Not all Christians are such "just because", neither are all atheists. Not all people follow something blindly, except of course in the places where all are blind. And in those places, we have no way of knowing the extent of our blind following, now do we?

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                    • jewpinthethird
                      (The Fat's Sabobah)
                      FFR Music Producer
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 11711

                      #595
                      Re: Homosexual Marriage

                      animeparadise, if you keep up this behavior in CT, you will be banned.

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                      • ToshX
                        FFR Player
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 5111

                        #596
                        Re: Homosexual Marriage

                        Well there's no way to prove there is or isn't a god until a god comes down to us, in which case we would prove there is one. There's no real way to prove there isn't one.

                        That being said, we HAVE to blindly believe it because we simply cannot prove otherwise.

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                        • Kilroy_x
                          Little Chief Hare
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 783

                          #597
                          Re: Homosexual Marriage

                          Originally posted by ToshX
                          Well there's no way to prove there is or isn't a god until a god comes down to us, in which case we would prove there is one. There's no real way to prove there isn't one.
                          It depends entirely on your willingness to accept certain premises. If you accept that logic and reason are sound, and that certain descriptions of God contain logical impossibilities and contradictions (by virtue of accepting, say, that killing people and causing people pain contradicts benevolence), you can conclude that at least certain versions of God are logical impossibilities. This is usually known as negative theology, and is often used by believers to try and define what God is by using logic and reason to rule out what God cannot be.

                          That being said, we HAVE to blindly believe it because we simply cannot prove otherwise.
                          Even if we can't define every possible unknown factor (which, definitionally, we can't), and even if we're left with a bunch of reasonable yet contradictory arguments, we can effectively narrow the number of things which are sensible to put any stock into. This is better than nothing at least. We can also use external reason to test other things about faith vs. lack of faith. For example, we can demonstrate what the cost of belief is, short of unknowables like an afterlife of course.

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                          • devonin
                            Very Grave Indeed
                            Event Staff
                            FFR Simfile Author
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 10120

                            #598
                            Re: Homosexual Marriage

                            The flaw there is that in so many cases, it is the promise of a specific unknowable afterlife that is the prime reason given for why one ought to pay the costs associated with believing.

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                            • TwilightPrincess
                              FFR Veteran
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1333

                              #599
                              Re: Homosexual Marriage

                              Originally posted by animeparadise
                              I don't see anything wrong with gay, bi, lesbo or anything??

                              The only thing I'm against is getting a sex change.. You were born to be either a boy or a girl and shouldn't be changed. If you were suppose to be a boy you would be a boy, if you were suppose to be a girl then you would be a girl ^_^

                              To tell the truth I'm bi and I don't care haha.
                              But I don't see myself marrying a guy 0_0
                              Yeah. It's like people who get a sex change JUST so they can be a lesbian or a gay. Weird. -_-

                              I'm not gay myself, but I have witnessed gay people.... doing gay things. :O:O:O:O:O:O

                              Cheers,
                              Daniel


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                              • NarutoFoxDemon
                                FFR Player
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 1181

                                #600
                                Re: Homosexual Marriage

                                I agree perfectly

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