Should the government stop abortions?

[Nyokou]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

I didn't say women should abort ALL of them.

I'm saying that women who are like me, or don't want to have a child for some other reason should have the right to get their fetus aborted.

[OrganisM]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

Uhm, other people do the same thing that I just did, if you haven't noticed. :/

And well, the only reason I have for supporting abortions is because I hate children. I don't care anyone says like 'omg how culd u!' or crap like that. I REALLY hate children, and no one can change my opinion on that. I also have no problem with killing an unborn living thing, honestly. It makes me laugh, but that's because I'm a sick-minded person, rofl.

Baby popping out from between my legs? Uhm, no thanks. Abortion please.

You think abortions are good simply because you hate kids? (refrain from ad hominem attack, refrain from ad hominem attack...)

It doesn't matter if other people do what you just did. It's just as wrong. Now post right or get out of CT. I've at least tried to respond and contribute.

Your points are completely invalid and baseless. It is with some sadness that I feel your parents didn't think the same way you do.

[Nyokou]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

Totally missed my point. >_>

[OrganisM]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

Totally missed my point. >_>

You really don't seem to have one. And you have no base for anything you've said.

[archbishopjabber]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

The child is technically part of the mother until it is born, so it is really the individual choice of the mother whether or not to have an abortion. She is ultimately responsible for growing/feeding it and raising it, and if she feels unfit to fulfill those duties the government has no place in forcing those duties upon the mother. Also, unwanted children have a much higher likelihood of committing serious crimes in their adult life due to the abuse and negligence that occurs.

The third trimester is tricky because the baby is pretty human at that point... but I'd say first trimester is a no-brainer considering the baby still has gill slits at that point...

[Nyokou]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

Okay, so let me start all over.

Abortions are a good idea for women who have gotten raped and accidentally gotten pregnant because of it. It's also a good thing for women who don't want children, for whatever reasons they have. A woman should have the right to choose whether she wants to bear a child or not.

Now, personally, besides the fact that I think laws shouldn't take the rights of women to have a child or not, I wouldn't want this to be a law where I live. Simply because I've already gone through a situation in which I almost could've gotten pregnant because..

1. It was the night after my menstrual period ended
2. No birth control pills were being taken by me
3. There was no condom

So I was at a HIGH risk of getting pregnant, and I wasn't getting 'forced' into the sex, it was of my own free will. So, hypothetically speaking.. If I had gotten pregnant, I would want an abortion, and I don't know the laws here in Virginia, but I think it's illegal in most places. I would have not wanted the child, and my hatred for babies and children dates back to a decade ago, but that's a whole different story.

[The Bain]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

Two things about abortions:
1) When a woman is raped it is extremely rare that she would get pregnant and if she does, should it be the child's fault?

2) Abortions aren't always safe, in fact they can damage the philopian tubes (wow that must be spelled wrong) and inhibit the Woman's ability to have children

[devonin]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

2) Abortions aren't always safe, in fact they can damage the philopian tubes (wow that must be spelled wrong) and inhibit the Woman's ability to have children

Heck, wouldn't that make Nyokou happy? The whole reason she wants the right to an abortion is in case she gets pregnant "by accident" instead of taking all of the necessary precautions, or actually just getting her tubes tied.

[The Bain]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

you must realize *gasps* you were a kid once too =0

[Nyokou]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

Well, I'm not a kid anymore. :/

And having a child at 15 years of age? No thanks. I'm definitely getting my tubes tied as soon as I can, without letting my parents know. I really don't want children at all.

And I know I made huge mistakes by not using a condom and being at the most vulnerable stage of getting pregnant that night. Besides, it was what.. the second time I had sex. I haven't done it since. I'm a bit too scared, and I've decided that if I do accidentally get pregnant, I want to be older, so no thanks.

[stretchypanda]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

fallopian.

I know it is simply a matter of... well, not opinion, but something... but I cannot imagine a woman becoming pregnant under normal circumstances (meaning she willingly participated in the conception) and not being excited about giving life to another being.

Of course, I am an education major and therefore only interested in getting married and making babies.

@ bain: I see what you are saying about a rape pregnancy not being the mother's fault, and with the advent and common use of emergency contraceptive, pregnancies resulting from rape ARE very uncommon, but you have to look at the emotional toll something like that would put on a woman, and it certainly wasn't HER fault she got pregnant. Now, I can't say how I would respond in a situation like that, but it has got to be difficult to carry around a 9-month reminder of the single most horrible event of your entire existence.

[xWnLx Crisco]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

Heck, wouldn't that make Nyokou happy? The whole reason she wants the right to an abortion is in case she gets pregnant "by accident" instead of taking all of the necessary precautions, or actually just getting her tubes tied.

You can still get pregnant even when your "tubes are tied" known as Salpingectomy.

You can still get pregnant when you take birth control.

You can still get pregnant using a condom the correct way.

So even if a female had all 3 covered and the chances of pregnancy was extremly high she could still become pregnant.

The only 100% way to not get pregnant is abstinence.

[OrganisM]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

Well, I'm not a kid anymore. :/

And having a child at 15 years of age? No thanks. I'm definitely getting my tubes tied as soon as I can, without letting my parents know. I really don't want children at all.

And I know I made huge mistakes by not using a condom and being at the most vulnerable stage of getting pregnant that night. Besides, it was what.. the second time I had sex. I haven't done it since. I'm a bit too scared, and I've decided that if I do accidentally get pregnant, I want to be older, so no thanks.

Did you let the guy ejaculate inside you? That usually is what does it.

Aside from that, devonin's already brought up the problem with the fact that the father, unless it's rape, also has half the responsibility of the living child but no say in whether the child is kept.

Read the rest of the topic before posting. If you already did, god help you for your lack of retention of information.

[blindreper1179]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

I see what you are saying about a rape pregnancy not being the mother's fault, and with the advent and common use of emergency contraceptive, pregnancies resulting from rape ARE very uncommon, but you have to look at the emotional toll something like that would put on a woman, and it certainly wasn't HER fault she got pregnant. Now, I can't say how I would respond in a situation like that, but it has got to be difficult to carry around a 9-month reminder of the single most horrible event of your entire existence.

my reason for saying abortions should stay.
if you participate willingly and know what's going on. you deserve what you get.

[OrganisM]

Re: Should the government stop abortions?

my reason for saying abortions should stay.
if you participate willingly and know what's going on. you deserve what you get.

And even so, I find it difficult to so harshly deal judgment down upon others for their follies.