Homosexual Marriage

[MRTL_mrclean17]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

So.

Thread conclusion: Whether people are born gay, or turn gay later in life, it doesn't matter, people are who they are. If God made someone a certain way, I have a hard time beileve all of this "homosexuality goes against God" stuff. Just because something goes against the Bible doesn't mean it's wrong. *cough*masturbation*cough.

Couldn't have said it better myself, well, thats not true, I could but I'm feeling incredibly lazy, I hope a mod locks this thread or something.

[sertman]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

I am against gay marriage

What's it to you, or anyone if gay people get married? What are you so scared of? That a man and a man will get married, and then the Rapture will occur?

Listen, if you don't like homosexuality, that's fine. But the worst, WORST, thing you can do is try to force your beliefs, ESPECIALLY if they are religion-related, into politics. We have a separation of church and state and until you can provide concrete proof that everything in the bible is real, and believing in religion is no longer called "faith" but "fact" then the two have no business being around each other.

Gay people are gay because they're born gay. If they can choose, who's to say what choice is correct? The Bible? Sorry, but when it comes to states approving the right for two men or women to get married then any religious support is thrown out the window. Could you or anyone else choose to be gay? Of course not, you're physically repulsed by the idea of screwing another man, probably because you were BORN STRAIGHT.

Good lord theres nothing that pisses me off more than people sticking their noses into people's business because they think it's wrong, although it's doing nothing to hurt them or anyone else.

[MRTL_mrclean17]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

What's it to you, or anyone if gay people get married? What are you so scared of? That a man and a man will get married, and then the Rapture will occur?

Listen, if you don't like homosexuality, that's fine. But the worst, WORST, thing you can do is try to force your beliefs, ESPECIALLY if they are religion-related, into politics. We have a separation of church and state and until you can provide concrete proof that everything in the bible is real, and believing in religion is no longer called "faith" but "fact" then the two have no business being around each other.

Gay people are gay because they're born gay. If they can choose, who's to say what choice is correct? The Bible? Sorry, but when it comes to states approving the right for two men or women to get married then any religious support is thrown out the window. Could you or anyone else choose to be gay? Of course not, you're physically repulsed by the idea of screwing another man, probably because you were BORN STRAIGHT.

Good lord theres nothing that pisses me off more than people sticking their noses into people's business because they think it's wrong, although it's doing nothing to hurt them or anyone else.

I know this will make me sound like a jackass, but in this case I can't help myself, so here it goes once again:
So far no valid nonreligious reason has been posited for the opposition of gay marriage, furthermore, according to the text I pulled up, which you probably didn't read since you haven't really read anybody else's posts:
religion is a poor excuse for the bigotry of gay marriage.

Critical thinking requires critical reading.

Now I say once again: This thread is dead unless anybody can come up with a GOOD non-religious reason to be AGAINST homosexual marriage.

[sertman]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

I read a few posts and posted. Get off my nuts.

[devonin]

Re: Homosexual Marriage

Critical thinking -also- requires critical understanding that a post about your post is about your post not you. Nobody is "on your nuts" about your post, your post was simply another "I think it's okay because I think it's ok" post, like the dozen of its kind, as distinguished from all of the "I don't think it's okay, because I don't think it's okay" posts.

[Lamoc]

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Being homosexual shouldn't matter about anything. From getting married to adopting a child to renting out an appartment. When I first tried to rent an appartment I was turned down several times because I wanted to rent it with another woman. The appartments were made for couples and they had a problem with that. If you don't like homosexuals, don't be one. You don't have any right to tell a person they can't do something such as getting married or adopting a child just for what they like or dare I say even thier beliefs. You don't turn down someone because they're jewish or whatever. It shouldn't be any different than a homosexual, they should have just as much rights as everyone else.

[RF_Niche in Torture]

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Being homosexual shouldn't matter about anything. From getting married to adopting a child to renting out an appartment. When I first tried to rent an appartment I was turned down several times because I wanted to rent it with another woman. The appartments were made for couples and they had a problem with that. If you don't like homosexuals, don't be one. You don't have any right to tell a person they can't do something such as getting married or adopting a child just for what they like or dare I say even thier beliefs. You don't turn down someone because they're jewish or whatever. It shouldn't be any different than a homosexual, they should have just as much rights as everyone else.

I think there's exception to this. I believe the child should have a decision, knowing all the ridicule he could face later in life. I want to debate about it to see what other people's opinions are, especially on adopting children uncomprehensive of th situation.

[devonin]

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Give me any compelling reason why someone should be turned down wanting to adopt a child for the -sole- reason that they are gay. If you want to point out potential possible ridicule, then you have to use the same grounds to forbid members of a visible minority to adopt also...racism in america is enough of a problem that it's at least as valid an objection. of course, in reality neither is any objection at all.

[Lamoc]

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I think there's exception to this. I believe the child should have a decision, knowing all the ridicule he could face later in life. I want to debate about it to see what other people's opinions are, especially on adopting children uncomprehensive of th situation.

That I completely agree with. Of course the child should have a say-so in this. But say if the child does like them, most places won't let a homosexual couple adopt. But I completely agree that the child should have a decision.

[devonin]

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Why should the child have a say-so based on the sexual orientation of the parents any more or less than they should -already- have a say-so because it is them being adopted?

[thegeddupnoise]

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I personally am Christian and I believe in the Bible, but there's no changing true feelings. Some people just like the same sex. There's nothing you can really do to change it. So, I don't approve of it, whatever. It's not my life. I don't see how the world would end if gay people marry.

[Lamoc]

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If your going to be forced to spend the rest of your life with someone then you shuold have a say-so who it is. But that's getting a bit off topic.

Back on topic: That is exactly how I think people should be. You don't have to like homosexuals and you don't have to approve of it, but its not your life, you realy shouldn't have control over it. People should be more like thegeddupnoise.

[Mookage]

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Personally I beleive homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals. I beleive this should be dealt with as sexism and racism were dealt with. If homosexuals want to get married then let them do it, it's their life and let them do what they want to do.

[FaintScent]

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Marriage is a catholic sacrement between a man and a woman.
I do think that homosexuality is acceptable but i don't think that marriage is right well in the catholic way..
Many people in the modern world get married at gardens, at a law facility, in another country ...etc... but I just can't see why they could possibly get married in a church..
i'm not really sure if i'm making anysense but that's just how i feell.. although it may sound abit narrow minded.

[devonin]

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Marriage is a catholic sacrement between a man and a woman.

As has been brought up far too many times already, Married is also a legal status that has not one single thing to do with religion, and that particular type of married is what we've been at least trying to discuss this whole time.