125 million year old Flying Squirrel

[GuidoHunter]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

Cool it, pureblood. You're dangerously close to flaming there.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Reach]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

do you even know how CO2 dating works

Yes

it works by radiation, usually from the sun

No

how on earth could UV radiation seem to be decreased, simple, the UV rays wouldn't get to the CO2, how would that happen, mabe thick dense clouds that were there BEFORE they were rained out blocked the rays, causing a big greenhouse effect?

Not quite...

this applies to all radiometric dating

Decay constant

my source is my parents sundy school teach, Mr. Robert Ridlon Jr.
science does not want to admit that there is a higher power out there that they can't explain. everybody knows that that is the scientist's greatest fear, not being able to explain something

No

I cannot explain many things.

Apropos, my friday school teacher Mr. Wingleniff says a magical group of myrmidons once, in 7 billion bc, took seven shats in the corner of a cave and it spawned an invisible nymphomaniac that created Earl, Steve and Beth to go at it in a wild threesome to bring the Homosapien reign.

This is entirely true because I trust Mr. Wingleniff.

[purebloodtexan]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

Cool it, pureblood. You're dangerously close to flaming there.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Really?

Mybad. = P

Must've been the Bible Boy part. Trust me, I believe in God, but I don't think he controls everything we do, so I rarely talk about God or show my belief in him.

[meno_rocks123]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

Bat?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure they decided that some dinosaurs definitely flew and birds came from dinosaurs. So either way, mammals didn't really come first.

ps Don't try to bring religious issues into things like this. Science says that carbon dating is relatively accurate, so your religious views must be checked at the door and not stated as fact without any evidence.

We can't really trust carbon dating anyways. No one really knows if the process that carbon dating tracks doesn't speed up or slow down at some point. Tha fact it was "updated" 25 or 30 years ago proves my point. We cannot really begin to figure out how accurate carbon dating is unless we take something and carbon-date it every year from the first to see if it is really accurate.

In a nutshell, carbon dating isn't reliable, so anything we don't have documented with some sort of dating system, cannot be dated. This squirrel could be 125 million years old or 125 years old for all we know. There are too many variables for us to consider before we get real rock-solid proof.

[GuidoHunter]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

Tha fact it was "updated" 25 or 30 years ago proves my point.

I addressed this in another thread. Science is perpetually self-correcting. The fact that something got updated means it got more accurate, not less.

When relativity came around, did that mean classical physics became untrustworthy? No, it became more and more solid.

We cannot really begin to figure out how accurate carbon dating is unless we take something and carbon-date it every year from the first to see if it is really accurate.

Or cross-reference its results with other dating techniques. Wait, we did that already, and it checked out.

In a nutshell, carbon dating isn't reliable, so anything we don't have documented with some sort of dating system, cannot be dated.

Support, pl0x.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Reach]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

We can't really trust carbon dating anyways. No one really knows if the process that carbon dating tracks doesn't speed up or slow down at some point.

Yes we can trust it.

And no, we do know. Where are you getting this information from? It's wrong.

Tha fact it was "updated" 25 or 30 years ago proves my point

No.

Updated? There is no updating. Isotopes decay and form something else from a decay constant. The only inaccuracy that can result is from poor method.

What you do to get accurate results is cross section the results with other isotopes. Carbon dating isn't used to date really old stuff. We use potassium/argon, rubidium/strontium, thorium/lead isotope series comparisons to get very accurate results, to less than 1% error. This error is negligible when talking about something millions of years old.

[lord_carbo]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

I'm pretty sure thousands of well-educated scientists can explain the world a lot better with factual and logical proof than a handful of old guys from 2000+ years ago who theorized some big being up in the clouds when that was the only explanation they had for life.



If you're going to make an extremely bogus (from a scientific POV) claim like claiming carbon dating slowed down a lot, you better have at least one source to back you up, or else this isn't the thread, nor probably the forum, for you.

Carbon dating is a very accurate method. I've never heard of "CO2 dating," though. You were correct when you said radiocarbon (that's carbon-14, by the way), now all of a sudden it's CO2?

[inflames07]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

the great flood has probably been recorded in many different civilazations, i just don't know which ones (i am about to call it a night, you can do that research), but a while ago, a great flood overswept the earth and flooded it for 40 days and nights (according to math, rained at .5 feet per minute), and one male and female of each species was carried on a friggin huge boat, along with 6 humans. this is sparratically throught genesis i think.

Sorry, I have to say this because just about everything else has already been said.

How the hell does one man make a big enough boat to gather 2 of every animal? And how the hell would he get 2 of every animal?

Answer that.

[Afrobean]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

Sorry, I have to say this because just about everything else has already been said.

How the hell does one man make a big enough boat to gather 2 of every animal? And how the hell would he get 2 of every animal?

Answer that.

I think the bible says he lived for much longer than a normal man in order to finish God's work.

Why didn't God make this boat himself with his powers over everything? Further more, why did he have to use a "global" flood to punish those that he wished to punish? Very inefficient if you ask me.

[purebloodtexan]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

I think the bible says he lived for much longer than a normal man in order to finish God's work.

Why didn't God make this boat himself with his powers over everything? Further more, why did he have to use a "global" flood to punish those that he wished to punish? Very inefficient if you ask me.

I don't think God uses his powers unless it's absolutely necessary. If man can do it, he kicks back on the recliner.Not really, but you get the point

[CPUGenuis]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

here, on thrusday i am gonna tape this guy speaking at a church and you guys can then argue with him ( i'll see about getting his emai address)

[gerbi7]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

Holy ****, this thing is so of topic and retarded now, would someone lock it?

[GuidoHunter]

Re: 125 million year old Flying Squirrel

No. It hasn't gone extremely off-topic, and things are still being debated. Sure, we may not be talking explicitly about your flying squirrel, but we've followed a logical progression to discuss its implications.

--Guido

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