Smoking as a Public Health Issue

[ToshX]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

To summarize it all with a quote: "Your rights end where mine begin."

Wow, that's a great way of putting it, and I'm not being even somewhat sarcastic.

[jewpinthethird]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

Yeah, but you have to remember that we're not all perfect and young. Think of the 80 year old with asthma walking a little every day to stay alive. The second he begins breathing in smoke and coughing, his life is slightly shortened. Now imagine having to be around people like this nearly every day at that age.

What? That's the most poorly constructed argument ever. An old man with asthma walking in the park who hotboxes it everyday with cigarette smokers, where are you pulling this jazz from? For one, coughing does not shorten your life.

[ToshX]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

What? That's the most poorly constructed argument ever. An old man with asthma walking in the park who hotboxes it everyday with cigarette smokers, where are you pulling this jazz from? For one, coughing does not shorten your life.

You're missing my point. If he's inhaling enough smoke to make him cough, he's inhaling enough that it is damaging to his lungs and just overall health in general. Some people live in places in which there are many smokers and little limits to stop them from doing it in public. It doesn't matter if it's an old man or a 20 year old guy in perfect health, it's still very damaging.

[Wlfwnd91]

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These are the most biased idiotic arguments I've heard >.< I think only 1 or 2 people in here have made any logical argument to serve their point, as opposed to "It's just stupid".

Second hand smoke is only damaging in large quantities, walking by someone in a park will NOT have an effect. There's cilia in your lungs that work on protecting them from those kinds of things. The only people I worry about are the kids who have parents who sit in the living room and smoke a pack a day, or something like that. And the second-hand smoke as an annoyance when you're walking behind someone or something? Come on, there's little annoyances everywhere, if we were to outlaw everything that annoyed a few people, we'd have nothing left. There's a difference between annoying and fatal.

[rickz0rz]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

These are the most biased idiotic arguments I've heard >.< I think only 1 or 2 people in here have made any logical argument to serve their point, as opposed to "It's just stupid".

Second hand smoke is only damaging in large quantities, walking by someone in a park will NOT have an effect. There's cilia in your lungs that work on protecting them from those kinds of things. The only people I worry about are the kids who have parents who sit in the living room and smoke a pack a day, or something like that. And the second-hand smoke as an annoyance when you're walking behind someone or something? Come on, there's little annoyances everywhere, if we were to outlaw everything that annoyed a few people, we'd have nothing left. There's a difference between annoying and fatal.

I have an allergies to many things, including cigarette smoke. It's not annoying. It's discomforting.

[Wlfwnd91]

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I have an allergies to many things, including cigarette smoke. It's not annoying. It's discomforting.

What do you mean you have allergies to it? Does your throat swell up, do you get hives, what? What kind of reaction do you have?

[jewpinthethird]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

I have an allergies to many things, including cigarette smoke. It's not annoying. It's discomforting.

Blame your parents for not exposing you to enough allergens when you were a child.

[rickz0rz]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

If you're referring to the Hygiene Hypothesis, you are missing one crucial point: that was developed in 1989--years after I was born, and still has yet to really hit the mainstream. And at the root, it's still just what it's name implies: a hypothesis. I guess I could blame them for things they couldn't have known, however.

[UberMario]

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Hmm... I'm really surprised that America still allows cigarette ads. Canada banned them what, a decade ago?

[Wlfwnd91]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

Hmm... I'm really surprised that America still allows cigarette ads. Canada banned them what, a decade ago?

I only see them occasionally in magazines or something like that. They're definitely not on tv or anything like that. Cigarette ads have gone down to almost none.

[Armadegon]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

These are the most biased idiotic arguments I've heard >.< I think only 1 or 2 people in here have made any logical argument to serve their point, as opposed to "It's just stupid".

Second hand smoke is only damaging in large quantities, walking by someone in a park will NOT have an effect. There's cilia in your lungs that work on protecting them from those kinds of things. The only people I worry about are the kids who have parents who sit in the living room and smoke a pack a day, or something like that. And the second-hand smoke as an annoyance when you're walking behind someone or something? Come on, there's little annoyances everywhere, if we were to outlaw everything that annoyed a few people, we'd have nothing left. There's a difference between annoying and fatal.

Yes there is a difference however that line is very slim. Also this isn't just about people in the United States who have enough money to buy a house and mantain a reasonable standard of living. Think of that poor chinese hobo who sleeps in a cardboard box. If the guy in the cardboard box mext to him smokes he is exposed to it every day and can not do anything to get out of that situation. anyway think of the fire hazard that poses.

[sherbtail]

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If a chinese hobo in a cardboard box had another chinese hobo in a cardboard box next to him smoking then he might get cancer.
This is true, however he probably deserves it and shouldn't be passing on his genes if he hasn't the sense to move his cardboard box away from the smoker...

These what if scenarios that are being posed are ludicrous...

[Idonnoimconfused]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

Smoking is bad.
Secondhand smoke isn't so bad.
Why the hell are people so dumb and brain washed when it comes to secondhand smoking?
Seriously.

[GuidoHunter]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

Secondhand smoke isn't so bad

It is when you're allergic to it.

Not that I'm suggesting laws be made for my convenience, or anything; I just wanted to point that out.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[ToshX]

Re: Smoking as a Public Health Issue

Personally, there's little I hate more than being near a smoker while they're smoking. I can't imagine how bad it'd be for people with asthma or are just allergic to it in general.