Snickers commercial controversy

[Evascythe]

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I want a snickers bar

According to Sportsnet [a channel in BC, Alberta, Ontario] that commerical has now been banned, lol.

[lord_carbo]

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Besides, doesnt the bible also say not to judge another because thats God's job? In that case, you do not know if they have repented of that sin or not and therefore you can not call them a hypocrite.

I'm not Christian 8) It's just chances are you've lied at least once in your lifetime.

P.S. - Nice try but im sure not many people are going to agree with you that murder and other serious sins are just as big of a deal as swearing on accident.

In God's eyes and according to the Bible. It's impossible to weigh them by their negative impacts and say that they're the same in human eyes and perspective, but James 2:10 says that all sins are equal in God's eyes.

[MalReynolds]

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Two guys kissing is not manly.

1 : having qualities generally associated with a man : strong, virile
2 : appropriate in character to a man <manly sports>

They were using the BASIC definition of the word.

Masculine -

1 a: male b: having qualities appropriate to or usually associated with a man
2: of, relating to, or constituting the gender that ordinarily includes most words or grammatical forms referring to males

Qualities appropriate to or usually associated with a man most definitley does not mean kissing another man. Any way you cut it, by definition, two guys kissing isn't manly. It's just gay.

EDIT:

What I mean to say is, the majority of men (which the definition is based around) do not go around kissing other men.

[lord_carbo]

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Homosexuality is gay, Mal.

[MalReynolds]

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Well, duh.

This is just to the defense of the commercial and everyone saying that it's unfair to portray homosexuals as unmanly.

[slipstrike0159]

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In God's eyes and according to the Bible. It's impossible to weigh them by their negative impacts and say that they're the same in human eyes and perspective, but James 2:10 says that all sins are equal in God's eyes.

However in Doctrine and Covenants 42:18 it says "And now, behold, I speak unto the church. Thou shalt not kill; and he that kills shall not have forgiveness in this world, nor the world to come." When you compare it to Doctrine and Covenants 42: 25 that says "But he that has committed adultery and repents with all his heart, and forsaketh it, and doeth it no more, thou shalt forgive" then you can clearly see that murder is greater in the eyes of God because there is no forgiveness however he that repents of a sin such as adultery can be forgiven.

[GuidoHunter]

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In God's eyes and according to the Bible. It's impossible to weigh them by their negative impacts and say that they're the same in human eyes and perspective, but James 2:10 says that all sins are equal in God's eyes.

Equal in what context?

They equally disappoint God, possibly, but like slip mentioned, some sins aren't forgivable and will require much more temporal punishment than others.

--Guido

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[sherbtail]

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However in Doctrine and Covenants 42:18 it says "And now, behold, I speak unto the church. Thou shalt not kill; and he that kills shall not have forgiveness in this world, nor the world to come." When you compare it to Doctrine and Covenants 42: 25 that says "But he that has committed adultery and repents with all his heart, and forsaketh it, and doeth it no more, thou shalt forgive" then you can clearly see that murder is greater in the eyes of God because there is no forgiveness however he that repents of a sin such as adultery can be forgiven.

Maybe that is what mormons believe however note Lord Carbo's James 2:10 quote. I tend to hold the bible in far higher regard than texts compiled almost 2000 years later.
All sins are forgiveable. that is the basis of the christian faith, from swearing to adultery to murder. Of course murder is forgiveable, I thought all Christian's believed that...
There is no scale of sin. It is either sin, or not sin. For God or against God. It is only our human law that puts things on a scale of slightly bad to very bad and that's the way it should be.

[Cats_Go_Meow]

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The man said it was disgusting, and that the Super Bowl is a family program that shouldn't be corrupted by those kinds of commercials.

Hmm...I thought he would have learned from the "Wardrobe Malfunction," Don't You Think?

[Billydude]

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Kids are being exposed to so many things nowadays, but they have to grow up some time. I'm not saying they can't be kids or anything but there are Viagra and Cialis commercials that come on most of the time and you don't see parents complain when there kids see. I laughed the first time I saw that commercial. I didn't think it was that bad actually, I just think that parents should either tell the kids the truth or just say "I'll tell you when your older". But not all non-Christians are for homosexuality either. I think that the father was being unmanly not giving his son a lecture he will need to know in life XD.

[slipstrike0159]

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Maybe that is what mormons believe however note Lord Carbo's James 2:10 quote. I tend to hold the bible in far higher regard than texts compiled almost 2000 years later.
All sins are forgiveable. that is the basis of the christian faith, from swearing to adultery to murder. Of course murder is forgiveable, I thought all Christian's believed that...
There is no scale of sin. It is either sin, or not sin. For God or against God. It is only our human law that puts things on a scale of slightly bad to very bad and that's the way it should be.

Wow, how extremely dense of you... So what you are saying is that you are willing to believe a less clear ancient book pertaining to life thousands of years ago over scripture with a more refreshed and modern suited doctrine spelled out in its pages? Of course sin is sin, but regardless of what you may think there is such things as unpardonable sins. Ever heard of the sons of pardition? Moreover, if you were to actually witness God coming down to you directly and giving revelation while knowing that it is true through confirmation of the spirit but you denied it and also went against the gospel then you would surely be sent to outer darkness. However, even though this is the most serious of sins, chances are you are not going to get that opportunity let alone want to forsaken it. If every sin is equally bad then let me ask you, why is it required that you go and talk to your bishop as part of repentence if you do something like commit adultery while you dont necessarily have to if you swear a couple times? Also, why is it that the repentance process is far longer and harder for adultery and other such sins than it is for more menial ones? That is not to say that some sins are unimportant, there are just some sins more significantly disobedient to God than others.

[Billydude]

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Wow, how extremely dense of you... So what you are saying is that you are willing to believe a less clear ancient book pertaining to life thousands of years ago over scripture with a more refreshed and modern suited doctrine spelled out in its pages? Of course sin is sin, but regardless of what you may think there is such things as unpardonable sins. Ever heard of the sons of pardition? Moreover, if you were to actually witness God coming down to you directly and giving revelation while knowing that it is true through confirmation of the spirit but you denied it and also went against the gospel then you would surely be sent to outer darkness. However, even though this is the most serious of sins, chances are you are not going to get that opportunity let alone want to forsaken it. If every sin is equally bad then let me ask you, why is it required that you go and talk to your bishop as part of repentence if you do something like commit adultery while you dont necessarily have to if you swear a couple times? Also, why is it that the repentance process is far longer and harder for adultery and other such sins than it is for more menial ones? That is not to say that some sins are unimportant, there are just some sins more significantly disobedient to God than others.

lol I thought you quoted me at first and I was like WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? lol.

[lord_carbo]

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Equal in what context?

They equally disappoint God

Stop.

That was the whole point of my post.

I'm totally not offended as much by someone cussing as much as I'm offended by someone murdering my family, as should be the case with anyone, my point is just that some Christians make it seem like God looks down on homosexuality more than other sins. Sorry, I forgot the key word.

However in Doctrine and Covenants 42:18 it says "And now, behold, I speak unto the church. Thou shalt not kill; and he that kills shall not have forgiveness in this world, nor the world to come." When you compare it to Doctrine and Covenants 42: 25 that says "But he that has committed adultery and repents with all his heart, and forsaketh it, and doeth it no more, thou shalt forgive" then you can clearly see that murder is greater in the eyes of God because there is no forgiveness however he that repents of a sin such as adultery can be forgiven.

Well **** the Bible and it's contradictions =(

[RandomPscho]

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I'm totally not offended as much by someone cussing as much as I'm offended by someone murdering my family, as should be the case with anyone, my point is just that some Christians make it seem like God looks down on homosexuality more than other sins. Sorry, I forgot the key word.

I wonder why they need to pass their reason behind their hate of gays onto something else. Is it because they don't want to admit it to themselves that THEY hate gays and that their religion truly doesn't care; or at least their bible. Would they be ashamed if their religion was indifferent to gays?

[slipstrike0159]

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I wonder why they need to pass their reason behind their hate of gays onto something else. Is it because they don't want to admit it to themselves that THEY hate gays and that their religion truly doesn't care; or at least their bible. Would they be ashamed if their religion was indifferent to gays?

"Their bible?" seriously... its any wonder why people dont want anything to do with modern revelation because it interfers with what they always thought was right (although being gay is acceptable now as apposed to 40 years ago =\) and because of their own stubborness and pride they cannot accept it.
Did you know that one of the MAJOR reasons why not many people would listen to Joseph Smith was because they said modern revelations are not possible (who knows, maybe its because they were hypocrites and they didnt believe God cared anymore while they still taught prayer and other things).

Since you are all are hung up on what the bible teaches over the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, or Pearl of Great Price then i will clear this up with a simple passage from the Old Testament.
Leviticus 17:22 reads:

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
If you look at the footnotes for this scripture it is spelled out as it speaks "With the male you shall not lie as one lies with the woman"

Also look at Isaiah 3:9 which says, "The shew of thier countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hid it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves."

Perhaps the New Testament? Romans 1: 27 - "And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet."

How about this one? 1 Corinthians 6: 9 - "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind." Abusers of themselves as it is put has a footnote that relates them to Homosexuals/Homosexuality.

Jude 1:7 - "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire" With yet more footnotes relating to homosexuality