Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?
Originally posted by FictionJunction
Thing is, most dislike questioning it because questioning brings forth doubt, and doubt brings forth both a negative and positive possibility. The average believer doesn't like to consider the negative aspect of the doubt.
Which is why they will never really be more than average.
Originally posted by FictionJunction
This is why they dislike atheists/agnostics, and see them as people with lesser morale. They can't understand how atheists/agnostics live without a designated faith.
I know plenty of atheists/agnostics that can't understand how someone can live following "blind faith", so this works both ways.
I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.
Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?
Originally posted by Kilgamayan
I know plenty of atheists/agnostics that can't understand how someone can live following "blind faith", so this works both ways.
Exactly. This alone renders this discussion pointless. <3
I'm apathetic to other's beliefs. Do what you want. I don't have to understand why you choose to follow what you do. If everyone had this mentality everything would be fine.. but then again, we have people imposing religion and the lack thereof. ^^;
Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?
Originally posted by dietbuddy12
To Christians who converted- Do you still have a feeling you are wrong about your conversions? The main religions in this world all branched off from Christianity. It was made by people who thought God wasn't enough for them, so they create their own. Christianity is the oldest religon out there, and it has more evidence than the rest that it is the true religion. Haven't you read teh Bible stories? That was before Jesus was even born, and yet, peopled believe in God.
Judaism, Christianity and Islam all share the same historical lineage (Abraham). Judaism is the oldest of the three, followed by Christianity and Islam. Jesus was a Jewish rabbi and taught from the Torah. The torah is also used in all three religions. Zoroastrianism has influenced Christianity and Islam and to a lesser extent Judaism.
Hinduism is the world's oldest religion and has influenced every other world religion, Eastern and Western.
I believe religion is just an evolutionary survival by-product.
Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?
Every day at night i think about everything. I ultimatly came to the conclussion that organized religion is not what you believe its what your religion belives which makes it worthless. So i quit. All at once.
Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?
To be honest. I never really was raised religiously, as in, i never did go to church. However, as my life progressed, I started questioning religion together. How can people believe in something that they have no proof of. Like for instance. Buddhism, thats a religion. Buddhism is an invention. Siddharta Guatama said some things that motivated people, and therefore had a "religion". Religion is just a group of people who share beliefs, however, the beliefs that they choose to accept sometimes have no historical proof, as well as breaking laws of physics.
My nonacceptance of religion started when I was in 7th grade and read a Michael Chichton book by the name of Timeline. Using theorys and quotes from the book, it gave me something that was proven in tests and studies. So, I went with it because it made sense to me. My personal belief of religion is that it is a man made invention to take the sting out of death, to give them something to look forward after their life and not to worry about something that will happen to everyone .. death. I do ocassionally get into heated arguments about this topic. Religion in itself is a touchy topic. Many people get pissed off when you question something that they have held dear to them almost their entire lives. I choose to view life differently than a lot of people do. Most of the reasons why I have chosen to become non-religious (I hate using the word athiest because of how people percieve that nowadays) are really complicated and proven reasons. Most people are either 1) Not smart enough to comprehend/understand my viewpoints, or 2) Dismiss it as hogwash because of the fact it is questioning their faiths/beliefs..
Its an explanation that many people use to explain the unexplainable. They do not know for themselves what will happen or how the world happened. But you have to think about this. Life in itself.. as in, what else is out there? There is soo much space in the universe! What if the life we percieve is a dream/a virtual reality? Nobody knows and there is absolutely no proven reason. Religion is a theroy about how life began, among many other theories as well. An attempt to explain the absolute unexplainable.
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Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?
I was never really raised a certain religion... my parents tried to drag me to church on easter and chirstmas but that didn't amount to much.
I'm very much an adamant atheist now, and - from my point of view - atheism is just as much a religion as christianity. There's no mythos, no history or no real worship... but there is faith. I have faith that there is no god(s), no afterlife, no spirits, no sins... and there's really no absolute true way to confirm those facts.
Actually, if you get right down to it... I have to have more faith in my atheism than christians do in their christianity... if they're wrong, when they die it's no biggy, just *poof* no afterlife for you. If I'm wrong though..... I'm gonna need some serious A/C.
As for the reason I'm atheist... the gaps in religion as pointed out previously (historical innacuracies, lack of credible evidence, logical catch-22's concerning free will and divine plans, or an all-good, all-powerful, all-loving god that still allows evil to exist) But also literature, Paradise Lost, for example. Also a play called J.B. (based on the book of Job), very interesting perspectives on the motivations and psyche of Lucifer.... who I find to be a very interesting character in christian mythology.
Ultimately though, religion is a deeply personal concept. And if you have well-placed faith in something that you have tested and truly believe in, something that isn't blind faith but feels right to you... I really can't prove you wrong, and as long as faith is kept a private thing and doesn't cause strife, I have no problem with whatever you might believe.
Now if only if differences in faith DIDN'T cause problems. Which, I think, is a result of people taking faith in the public arena.... organized religion.
Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?
It's absolutely, utterly amazing to me how similar everyone's thoughts are on the subject.
One might say brainwashed, in this case by society. Just as society more or less put it on people to worship a religion during periods of human history, it now tends to push people away from believing in a higher power.
It's saddening that we cannot have unique thought. C'est la vie, eh?
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Re: If you've moved from being religious to Athiest, how did that go?
Originally posted by Laharl
It's absolutely, utterly amazing to me how similar everyone's thoughts are on the subject.
One might say brainwashed, in this case by society. Just as society more or less put it on people to worship a religion during periods of human history, it now tends to push people away from believing in a higher power.
It's saddening that we cannot have unique thought. C'est la vie, eh?
You got us there.
It's impossible for two dozen people to think the same thing. Gosh.
Just like it's impossible for six billion people to believe in gravity. WE'RE ALL THINKING THE SAME THING! CONSPIRACY!
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