TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

**dLGN** · 12-9-2015, 02:53 AM

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botchi246 [1:28 AM]
Who do you think is hg

dlgn [1:28 AM]
no clue lol

[1:29]
maybe you

[1:29]
you seem to be trying to feel me out

[1:29]
and you seem to know more about that role than anything else

[1:29]
like you knew nothing about the movie stalker

[1:29]
but you knew the thing about surviving one freeze about the homeless guy

[1:29]
so, yeah, maybe you

botchi246 [1:30 AM]
Haha i read the op

dlgn [1:30 AM]
perhaps

botchi246 [1:30 AM]
I was just enthralled by hg role

dlgn [1:30 AM]
fair enough

botchi246 [1:30 AM]
I like it

[1:30]
Its cool

MMMMMMM SO GOOD hahahaha

**XelNya** · 12-9-2015, 04:15 AM

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Just in case worst case scenario: there's a huge windstorm going on here (the lightning has been pretty actually) so I may or may not lose power,

**Vendetta21** · 12-9-2015, 04:35 AM

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Originally posted by XelNya

Just in case worst case scenario: there's a huge windstorm going on here (the lightning has been pretty actually) so I may or may not lose power,

I don't see how that would effect your gameplay at all given your current contribution is nothing

**XelNya** · 12-9-2015, 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by Vendetta21

I don't see how that would effect your gameplay at all given your current contribution is nothing

**Vendetta21** · 12-9-2015, 04:50 AM

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I'm drunk right now, ignore me

**Vendetta21** · 12-9-2015, 05:00 AM

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Tokzic I am willing to be convinced by you still but I am not going to build the case against botchi so I expect you to be building this case for a few reasons:
-you wantonly ignored some shit I said and instead focused on throwing shade on me yesterday when I questioned you (don't even pretend to deny this) by focusing on minutae that I don't even think was relevant
-botchi seems clean because it would be extremely weird for a new player to claim to an already outed hobo
-botchi appears way more committed to creating a network of associations than you are.

So it's all on you to make a convincing case here, which you've already said in slack you're going to go hard today, so it doesn't even matter that I'm saying this I guess. But just want you to know if you don't provide a convincing case that compels me I'm going to do my absolute best to lunch you because I, at the moment, cannot even see from one sideways glance how you could even hope to call yourself town in even the most remote recesses of a wild horse preservation from your current behavior.

**rzr** · 12-9-2015, 09:28 AM

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oh no the shit has truly hit the fan hasn't it. I guess I really should catch up now -- on to the lists!

**rzr** · 12-9-2015, 10:43 AM

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I said it was a bad friggin idea to lynch between those 3 claims off the rip. I will analyze between botchi and tokzic, but I do not think we should lynch either at this time, we're giving the wolves our only defense. This is also why I said we would gain more knowledge from a tokzic lynch than a xiz lynch - and now look, at least for me I'm back to square one pretty much. I have about 15 pages ITT to read before I'll have a more informed opinion.

**storn42** · 12-9-2015, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by DaBackpack

Likely, one of the sets has two fabricated convos

But if not, then either Charu or storn is an accomplice

I haven't been going to people. They come to me. Notice how none of you have received a private message from me. I'd show you the list of people I've messaged but I think that counts as posting a screens hot and is mod killable.

**AragakiAyase** · 12-9-2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by storn42

I haven't been going to people. They come to me. Notice how none of you have received a private message from me. I'd show you the list of people I've messaged but I think that counts as posting a screens hot and is mod killable.

just copy and paste each log you have with each person

**Tokzic** · 12-9-2015, 02:52 PM

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I was going to do all my reads in one post but I'm just going to do these one at a time to hopefully get some discussion going.

rzr

- Rzr feels like a likely botchi partner.

- Initially, I townread him strongly because he was very supportive of my claim and his on-boardness to kill Xiz, but in retrospect he seems almost too eager. Review my PMs with him to see where I'm coming from here.

- Someting is very not right about his consideration of botchi as the fakeclaim. First he proposes two possible wolf teams, one of which has Xiz in it, and one of which has BOTH me and botchi in it? Xiz asks him to explain, and he kind of does, but he doesn't address at all two of the most important points: why two wolves would want to fakeclaim, nor why a second real hobo would just sit idly by instead of piping up HEY GUYS THERE'S TWO WOLVES IN THESE FOUR PEOPLE!

- So then he seems to pretend it never happened and lists these possible hobo lynch orders, the only one of which that includes lynching botchi depends on lynching both real hobos first, and it is last in his list.

- ...so then he leaves the thread and doesn't appear again until after the phase is over.

**storn42** · 12-9-2015, 02:53 PM

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Cant till likely tomorrow. At a friend's house and on phone atm.

**dLGN** · 12-9-2015, 02:59 PM

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i swear if I pulled off of wolf rzr d1 because he bitched and moaned and cared about this game than any other townie I'll lose it

**dLGN** · 12-9-2015, 03:00 PM

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like at this point I now know that (human) xiz was as fucking creeped out at rzr's initial reads list as I was. i may have let an obvious wolf slide. fml.

**Tokzic** · 12-9-2015, 03:26 PM

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roundbox

- Roundbox's early game was concerning to me. Normally town roundbox is very helpful in terms of processing the format and thinking of ideal ways to use roles (and rooms in this case). Not only did he not really produce anything early, but I was kind of surprised he didn't at least respond to other people's thoughts on format - Charu's, my initial question about whether hobos should claim, dlgn's plan, my plan either of the times I posted it...

- After this feedback came out of a few people, he started proposing trying to use the bathrooms to catch people. This struck me weird because after some thinking what he was proposing would never be able to catch a wolf, but would only use up our bathroom charges for nothing. Reread our our PMs on this.

- He assumed me and botchi were the legit ones and Xiz was lying, but in public chats at least, never really showed any of his work.

- At 11:29 in the Slack game channel, this happened. Rzr asked botchi why we should go for me next if Xiz flips hobo and not botchi. Roundbox, who hadn't been in the channel until that point, thought he was being talked about out of the blue. This feels like a slip to me. His explanation is that he and rzr were talking in private before that and he thought he was in that conversation... except I can't get either of them to produce it:

TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

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