TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

This calls into question the log, because he asked DBP where he was that night rather than posting it in the thread first or telling DBP to prove he seered him. It signals that there is a possibility of foul play.

I am asking tokzic for his reasoning, specifically if his first thought truly was the idea of testing and that was his sole motivation. I want him to talk sincerely about what was going through his mind when he did that, which he should be able to remember, because I want to understand his perspective more clearly.

I currently cannot imagine a scenario where testing someone would ever give me new information because I can't imagine a scenario where someone would have a motivation to lie about what room they were in when they were in a room that indicates they are likely human. I can't find a reason why a wolf would lie about that fact. If you can come up with a scenario that I've overlooked where a wolf would lie about being in the Dino room when that is where they were, I would be really interested to hear it.

As it stands, I don't understand the impulse to test DBP, and I much more clearly understand the impulse to develop a fake seering to cover your tracks.

have you asked backpack to post HIS log from his perspective to crosscheck the two and confirm they are (very likely) real? because the only world where the logs are both tampered with is where they are both wolves and that's... so silly for so many reasons right now but whatever.

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

Da backpack posted his log and tokzic confirmed it

[dLGN]

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also how on earth is this setup balanced btw?

we have 2 homeless guys who can keep going in the security booth every day and the only way mafia have of stopping them is freezing the booth, which at best just gets rid of their "vest" while leaving the rest of town alive and the number of rooms to hide in too high to narrow down.

like our best strategy right now is to no lynch and let... probably botchi since the two of you think he is real, get another check to try and find the movie stalker or catch someone in the AC control room. rinse and repeat, mafia will have to try and freeze the booth to stop botchi, but the rest of us survive. do it again with tokzic until he gets frozen and loses his "vest". do it again with xiz until he loses his "vest" (if he has one).

we would find the movie stalker eventually and then have a free night in the movie theatre where nobody would die... like, how can town lose this...?

also isn't this true? if so I think we'd need to be smarter about where people go at night to ensure we don't lose like 5 in a night but other than that it's kind of unstoppable.

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

It's irrelevant if it is people will undoubtedly bitch about it in post game tho

[dLGN]

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so you still contend that the log is suspect? in what way?

like tampered with or just odd? i've read what you've said but you need to be specific here because this all seems unlikely to me. I would have done the same thing tokzic did.

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

It's irrelevant if it is people will undoubtedly bitch about it in post game tho

why is it irrelevant? if it's a good strategy why don't we do it?

[Vendetta21]

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Oh I thought you meant the comments about balance. I'm in favor of letting botchi dictate the allocation of night phase slots he seems extremely pure at this point, beyond that the "night phase planning" discussions are just intellectually stimulating white noise compared to the other discussions that should happen today.

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

so you still contend that the log is suspect? in what way?

like tampered with or just odd? i've read what you've said but you need to be specific here because this all seems unlikely to me. I would have done the same thing tokzic did.

The log is not suspect with regards to the topics being discussed

[dLGN]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

look I hope I am not making a mistake here and if you are town you are doing the right thing and being prudent and i'm sorry for slighting that. but xiz has yet to explain his reaction and there's no reason to suspect he is real right now whatsoever. and I don't want your explanation for his reaction, I'd like his, which I've asked about like 4 times now with no response, so...

[Vendetta21]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

That's fine, I'm still not sure who I would like to see die today so carry on

[roundbox]

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I have the pleasure of participating this phase via mobile, just an fyi

[AragakiAyase]

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I have the pleasure of participating this phase via mobile, just an fyi

so participate instead of sitting there

[AragakiAyase]

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unvote

[rzr]

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dlgtn, before I read the next few pages, I just wanna let you know I hate you

No not really. But I hate that I've had you viewed as scum since d0 and you have been doing a damn good job of looking human recently

[Xiz]

Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

I honestly cant figure out if dlgn is either in denial that im real or hes just stupid.

I was about to make a post saying how scummy i think dlgn is but there was one thing he said that made me not post it and it was him going from "XIZ IS A WOLF" to "If xiz is a wolf" and that is huge because it proves he actually has learned how to think.