TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

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  • rzr
    TWG Veteran
    • Oct 2007
    • 7608

    #1216
    Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

    Originally posted by Tokzic
    i'm gonna be gone for a while for christmas shopping, i'll be back some time before eod
    better get me something good - like an FFR shirt

    Originally posted by darkshark
    Everyone sucks at this game. The second you think you're good is the second you stop trying to get better.
    Originally posted by aperson
    i had a mri the other day it was the best song i heard in years

    Originally posted by Sprite-
    More of a joke than the time I deleted all the credits on the site.
    Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
    yeah my goldfish think im a riot they do this thing where they turn upside down and float to the top of the tank

    i guess their alcohol tolerance isnt as high as mine

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    • rzr
      TWG Veteran
      • Oct 2007
      • 7608

      #1217
      Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

      Originally posted by dLGN
      my status in slack is set to away right now, same as I am appearing offline here on the forums. that's never a point worth bringing up wrt alignment.
      This is very very true. But it is really really fucking annoying. I was asked to come off of invisible status when in games. Not setting a precedent or anything, but for example I see AA posting ITT and away in the chat, which is ass backwards imo. Same with you posting ITT.
      So I see 10 people viewing the thread and 2 people on slack. Annoying, but not relevant to the game or this phase, just commenting.

      Originally posted by darkshark
      Everyone sucks at this game. The second you think you're good is the second you stop trying to get better.
      Originally posted by aperson
      i had a mri the other day it was the best song i heard in years

      Originally posted by Sprite-
      More of a joke than the time I deleted all the credits on the site.
      Originally posted by MinaciousGrace
      yeah my goldfish think im a riot they do this thing where they turn upside down and float to the top of the tank

      i guess their alcohol tolerance isnt as high as mine

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      • AragakiAyase
        Waifus
        • Apr 2015
        • 961

        #1218
        Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

        ok I think I just got food poisoning but I'll try to keep up

        I'm confused why DoTA is a factor here, is it because toxzic specifically seemed disinterested in the game, especially considering his supposed role here? Because unless it's that applying activity to determine alignment is definitely not going to work in this game as it is right now

        pikakirby123 reincarnated





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        • Vendetta21
          Sectional Moderator
          Sectional Moderator
          • Aug 2006
          • 2745

          #1219
          Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

          Originally posted by dLGN
          my status in slack is set to away right now, same as I am appearing offline here on the forums. that's never a point worth bringing up wrt alignment.
          It's not w/r/t alignment he's complaining that I messaged him on steam when he was offline, please read the thread thoroughly

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          • AragakiAyase
            Waifus
            • Apr 2015
            • 961

            #1220
            Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

            *tokzic idk why I keep saying toxzic

            pikakirby123 reincarnated





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            • dLGN
              FFR Player
              • Feb 2015
              • 8

              #1221
              Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

              like you're pushing a couple different odd lines here:

              1. tokzic seemed to think his check was confirming and tested backpack with it. this isn't true (but it's likely true) so backpack isn't clear guys!

              2. also tokzic is probably a wolf for being wrong about the first point

              you seem to want both parts of this to be known but are more interested in the lynch part, by being emphatic about the check situation.

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              • Vendetta21
                Sectional Moderator
                Sectional Moderator
                • Aug 2006
                • 2745

                #1222
                Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                Tokzic claimed hobo
                I told him he couldn't have it
                Later when he appeared offline on slack (for whatever reason) he showed as being offline for only a few minutes on steam and I messaged him there saying he could have the kidz room
                He came back on slack and I didn't message him there
                Later, before the night phase was over, he came on steam but also never asked me for the kidz room
                He even sent me another message on steam apologizing that his game was too long, meaning he looked at his messages

                That is the course of events

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                • Vendetta21
                  Sectional Moderator
                  Sectional Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2745

                  #1223
                  Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                  Originally posted by dLGN
                  like you're pushing a couple different odd lines here:

                  1. tokzic seemed to think his check was confirming and tested backpack with it. this isn't true (but it's likely true) so backpack isn't clear guys!

                  2. also tokzic is probably a wolf for being wrong about the first point

                  you seem to want both parts of this to be known but are more interested in the lynch part, by being emphatic about the check situation.
                  You're not following

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                  • AragakiAyase
                    Waifus
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 961

                    #1224
                    Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                    Originally posted by Vendetta21
                    Anyways, so the absolute first thought that went through your mind, before posting the results, was that you wanted to test DBP? Like irregardless of how good of an idea that was, your first thought and motivation for messaging him was testing him?
                    tokzic can you answer this question

                    pikakirby123 reincarnated





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                    • dLGN
                      FFR Player
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 8

                      #1225
                      Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                      also how on earth is this setup balanced btw?

                      we have 2 homeless guys who can keep going in the security booth every day and the only way mafia have of stopping them is freezing the booth, which at best just gets rid of their "vest" while leaving the rest of town alive and the number of rooms to hide in too high to narrow down.

                      like our best strategy right now is to no lynch and let... probably botchi since the two of you think he is real, get another check to try and find the movie stalker or catch someone in the AC control room. rinse and repeat, mafia will have to try and freeze the booth to stop botchi, but the rest of us survive. do it again with tokzic until he gets frozen and loses his "vest". do it again with xiz until he loses his "vest" (if he has one).

                      we would find the movie stalker eventually and then have a free night in the movie theatre where nobody would die... like, how can town lose this...?

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                      • Vendetta21
                        Sectional Moderator
                        Sectional Moderator
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2745

                        #1226
                        Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                        I am trying to figure out who among tokzic or xiz is a wolf, dLGN, because I don't share your confidence.

                        If tokzic is a wolf, he could have used his advantaged situation having reclaimed the security booth from xiz to sabotage a bathroom slot (potential extra kill in a subsequent phase) and not use the seering booth even though he said he was going to, because he knew no one else would use it. This is potential.

                        If he did that, he would need to create a fake seering in the morning. He could do this by reading what people stated in slack but that might be risky because they might have been lying. Instead the safest bet is to ask someone and then pretend you already knew that to cover up your seering.

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                        • dLGN
                          FFR Player
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 8

                          #1227
                          Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                          Originally posted by Vendetta21
                          Tokzic claimed hobo
                          I told him he couldn't have it
                          Later when he appeared offline on slack (for whatever reason) he showed as being offline for only a few minutes on steam and I messaged him there saying he could have the kidz room
                          He came back on slack and I didn't message him there
                          Later, before the night phase was over, he came on steam but also never asked me for the kidz room
                          He even sent me another message on steam apologizing that his game was too long, meaning he looked at his messages

                          That is the course of events
                          ok even if I believe you this is beyond silly. i get that oott is allowed and we're all using it but this means nothing to me. any conclusion you draw from it is going to be purely speculative / interpretation.

                          what's less up for debate is how xiz claimed wolf after the EOD and laughed about getting gradiant lynched. he's yet to explain that reaction and I find it nearly impossible to have come from a townie.

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                          • dLGN
                            FFR Player
                            • Feb 2015
                            • 8

                            #1228
                            Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                            Originally posted by Vendetta21
                            I am trying to figure out who among tokzic or xiz is a wolf, dLGN, because I don't share your confidence.

                            If tokzic is a wolf, he could have used his advantaged situation having reclaimed the security booth from xiz to sabotage a bathroom slot (potential extra kill in a subsequent phase) and not use the seering booth even though he said he was going to, because he knew no one else would use it. This is potential.

                            If he did that, he would need to create a fake seering in the morning. He could do this by reading what people stated in slack but that might be risky because they might have been lying. Instead the safest bet is to ask someone and then pretend you already knew that to cover up your seering.
                            the easiest thing to do is just fake a red check and get a PR lynched, honestly. that's pretty worth because if we lynch xiz today and are wrong tokzic dies 99% of the time next over botchi anyway since they both think he's town, as do most others, it seems.

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                            • Vendetta21
                              Sectional Moderator
                              Sectional Moderator
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2745

                              #1229
                              Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                              This calls into question the log, because he asked DBP where he was that night rather than posting it in the thread first or telling DBP to prove he seered him. It signals that there is a possibility of foul play.

                              I am asking tokzic for his reasoning, specifically if his first thought truly was the idea of testing and that was his sole motivation. I want him to talk sincerely about what was going through his mind when he did that, which he should be able to remember, because I want to understand his perspective more clearly.

                              I currently cannot imagine a scenario where testing someone would ever give me new information because I can't imagine a scenario where someone would have a motivation to lie about what room they were in when they were in a room that indicates they are likely human. I can't find a reason why a wolf would lie about that fact. If you can come up with a scenario that I've overlooked where a wolf would lie about being in the Dino room when that is where they were, I would be really interested to hear it.

                              As it stands, I don't understand the impulse to test DBP, and I much more clearly understand the impulse to develop a fake seering to cover your tracks.

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                              • Vendetta21
                                Sectional Moderator
                                Sectional Moderator
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 2745

                                #1230
                                Re: TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

                                Originally posted by dLGN
                                ok even if I believe you this is beyond silly. i get that oott is allowed and we're all using it but this means nothing to me. any conclusion you draw from it is going to be purely speculative / interpretation.

                                what's less up for debate is how xiz claimed wolf after the EOD and laughed about getting gradiant lynched. he's yet to explain that reaction and I find it nearly impossible to have come from a townie.
                                Tokzic is the one continuing to focus on it

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