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  • Wolfman2000
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2005
    • 5

    #31
    Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

    Originally posted by Choofers
    I don't understand why you would make Pulsen. Stepmania.com has the StepMix comp every year, and there are literally over 10000 files out there that people can download, of varying difficulty levels.
    First, StepMix has not been every year. The last StepMix took almost two years due to various issues.

    Second, StepMix's quality is inconsistent. The main rules are that people get permission from an artist to use their music, make their own graphic or get someone's assistance on that, and make a minimum set of charts. As long as there are no violations on those, any chart can be accepted. As someone that has judged at least three of the StepMix competitions, I can assure you that not everyone knows how to make great pad charts. This past StepMix was...well, one of the hardest ones I ever had to judge.

    As far as the other thousands of files out there, one important fact must be remembered. Not all of them are meant for public consumption or distribution. Many of them are technically illegal for downloading and using in public. Furthermore, the quality control, or lack thereof, are perhaps worse in an unorganized area. These files could come from anywhere, and you wouldn't know about its quality without either trying it yourself or getting opinions about it.

    I have made a number of charts for Pulsen. Some of them were rejected due to either not being fun or not feeling like it was the right difficulty. Quality is something that is taken very seriously with the Pulsen chart artists. We don't want crap to come out. If it makes you feel better, the main team comprises of chart artists that have mostly worked on other known packs in the past. We are not made up of unknown people.
    Last edited by Wolfman2000; 12-4-2011, 05:23 PM. Reason: Better phrasing.

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    • Choofers
      FFR Player
      FFR Music Producer
      • Dec 2008
      • 6205

      #32
      Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

      Originally posted by Wolfman2000
      First, StepMix has not been every year. The last StepMix took almost two years due to various issues.
      rip

      Second, StepMix's quality is inconsistent. The main rules are that people get permission from an artist to use their music, make their own graphic or get someone's assistance on that, and make a minimum set of charts. As long as there are no violations on those, any chart can be accepted. As someone that has judged at least three of the StepMix competitions, I can assure you that not everyone knows how to make great pad charts. This past StepMix was...well, one of the hardest ones I ever had to judge.
      Quality is totally subjective to a new player (and to some better players (hi dossar)). Granted, some of the files are really bad, but at least they're free.

      As far as the other thousands of files out there, one important fact must be remembered. Not all of them are meant for public consumption or distribution. Many of them are technically illegal for downloading and using in public. Furthermore, the quality control, or lack thereof, are perhaps worse in an unorganized area. These files could come from anywhere, and you wouldn't know about its quality without either trying it yourself or getting opinions about it.
      Check out FFR Seasons Packs, those are very good packs and are slowly getting to the point where multiple difficulties are required (with very few exceptions).

      I have made a number of charts for Pulsen. Some of them were rejected due to either not being fun or not feeling like it was the right difficulty. Quality is something that is taken very seriously with the Pulsen chart artists. We don't want crap to come out. If it makes you feel better, the main team comprises of chart artists that have mostly worked on other known packs in the past. We are not made up of unknown people.
      Who else has made charts? I haven't heard your username at all.

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      • Saturn2888
        FFR Player
        • Feb 2006
        • 37

        #33
        Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

        Originally posted by Choofers
        Who else has made charts? I haven't heard your username at all.
        Pulsen; an interactive music & rhythm video game for Windows, Mac (OS X), & Linux.


        Probably because using real names instead of online ones makes it harder to associate people with their works, but some notable packs are Foonmix, DWI Extreme, Dancing Wipeout, Albumix, Vocaloid Party, ATC Makoto, ITG Edits, and others.

        I'd personally consider their work in Pulsen some of the best charts they've ever produced. Talking to them for years, it's great to see them produce something truly special.

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        • Choofers
          FFR Player
          FFR Music Producer
          • Dec 2008
          • 6205

          #34
          Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

          only 7 simfile artists?
          where do I apply to be an intern

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          • TC_Halogen
            Rhythm game specialist.
            FFR Simfile Author
            FFR Music Producer
            • Feb 2008
            • 19376

            #35
            Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

            for those of you questioning the chart quality, realize the Pulsen is pad-play oriented for most of their charts. Granted, while a few charts could use some work, none of them are really bad.

            This is making me want to go and work on my latest ITG doubles chart that uses something that the ITG community hates...CROSSOVERS!!!!!!!11one1~1

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            • Wolfman2000
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2005
              • 5

              #36
              Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

              Originally posted by Saturn2888
              some notable packs are Foonmix, DWI Extreme, Dancing Wipeout, Albumix, Vocaloid Party, ATC Makoto, ITG Edits, and others.
              I prefer to be associated with Pump Pro Edits, thanks.

              Well, at this point I don't care about real names vs stage names.

              I'm Jason Felds.

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              • Choofers
                FFR Player
                FFR Music Producer
                • Dec 2008
                • 6205

                #37
                Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

                Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                This is making me want to go and work on my latest ITG doubles chart that uses something that the ITG community hates...CROSSOVERS!!!!!!!11one1~1
                GG_Halogen

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                • Saturn2888
                  FFR Player
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 37

                  #38
                  Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

                  Originally posted by Choofers
                  I don't understand why you would make Pulsen. Stepmania.com has the StepMix comp every year, and there are literally over 10000 files out there that people can download, of varying difficulty levels.
                  Originally posted by justin_ator
                  ^^^

                  I just don't see the advantages of Pulsen
                  The reason is because people want different things. While StepMania exists, the older preferred platform was Dance With Intensity. A lot of people liked In The Groove and Dance Dance Revolution and both of them co-existed alongside StepMania and Dance With Intensity.

                  Pulsen is designed to be an all-in-one solution that just works. StepMania isn't necessarily the easiest thing to setup, use, or find good content for. There's quite a few differences that come from commercial products and a level of quality that is required to uphold especially when your competition is free.

                  For instance, if you want a new feature in Pulsen, chances are you'll see in there fairly quickly so long as you inform one of us. Found a bug? We'll probably put out a fix for it within the next few days. When you pay us for something, we care about how happy you are with the final product.

                  In fact, I haven’t heard a customer complain about Pulsen’s Ultra I DLC pack so it’s only reasonable to assume people just need to play it to really figure out what it’s all about.

                  * * * * * * * *

                  How about this. If you can put every chart designer credited with a pack they’re well-known for first, I’ll give you a free copy of Pulsen: Ultra I.

                  • Alex Kim
                  • Jason Felds
                  • Kévin Dendayne
                  • Nick Navaroli
                  • Sta Kousin
                  • Steve Nera
                  • Terrence Chan

                  Originally posted by Wolfman2000
                  I prefer to be associated with Pump Pro Edits, thanks.
                  ... Thanks Jason, haha. That's one down, you guys can have fun with the rest.
                  Last edited by Saturn2888; 12-4-2011, 05:49 PM.

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                  • TC_Halogen
                    Rhythm game specialist.
                    FFR Simfile Author
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 19376

                    #39
                    Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

                    Originally posted by Choofers
                    GG_Halogen
                    now I have to rip your ****ing balls off in public.

                    seriously though, I'm all for open source games that try to go the extra mile. Mungyodance was all the hype when it came out, and I wouldn't mind seeing this go anywhere.

                    speaking of which, Renard owes me some sort of apology for not putting my chart for Palindrome in the game being that it won 3rd in the stepcharting contest. meh.

                    Is Pulsen looking for anymore simfile artists? I've always been interested in charting for an actual project and I'm proficient in ITG/PIU singles and doubles charting, haha.

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                    • Saturn2888
                      FFR Player
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 37

                      #40
                      Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

                      Originally posted by fido123
                      I think the main thing about Pulsen is they're going to have a story mode and a bunch of additional stuff.
                      Ah yes, you're correct. A lot of stuff is in the works so we don't have much to show at this point, but the game only came out in October and there's plenty of new stuff floating around in our test builds.

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                      • Choofers
                        FFR Player
                        FFR Music Producer
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 6205

                        #41
                        Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

                        How about this, if you can put every chart designer credited with a pack they’re well-known for first, I’ll give you a free copy of Pulsen: Ultra I to try out.

                        • Alex Kim
                        • Jason Felds
                        • Kévin Dendayne
                        • Nick Navaroli
                        • Sta Kousin
                        • Steve Nera
                        • Terrence Chan
                        That's why I asked for usernames and not real names lol. Most people know my files as Torrent (or hypercore but those files are generally joke files or really dumpy files).

                        But what Halogen asked, are you guys looking for simfile artists rofl

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                        • Saturn2888
                          FFR Player
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 37

                          #42
                          Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

                          Originally posted by TC_Halogen
                          Is Pulsen looking for anymore simfile artists? I've always been interested in charting for an actual project and I'm proficient in ITG/PIU singles and doubles charting, haha.
                          I'm always looking for talented people, but that doesn't mean everyone gets in either . I wouldn't mind auditioning if you're up for it. I'll try to give as much feedback as you're willing to take.

                          Go ahead and PM my your e-mail address or IM name (your preference), and we can talk about it further that way.

                          Originally posted by Choofers
                          That's why I asked for usernames and not real names lol. Most people know my files as Torrent (or hypercore but those files are generally joke files or really dumpy files).
                          After someone puts them together then you'll know. I wanna give some people a chance to try first .
                          Last edited by Saturn2888; 12-4-2011, 05:54 PM.

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                          • Choofers
                            FFR Player
                            FFR Music Producer
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 6205

                            #43
                            Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

                            Derp. Well these are my guesses.
                            • Alex Kim - ITG Edits
                            • Jason Felds - Pump Pro Edits
                            • Kévin Dendayne - Dancing WipeOut
                            • Nick Navaroli - ITG Edits
                            • Sta Kousin - Foonmix
                            • Steve Nera - Albumix
                            • Terrence Chan - Vocaloid Mix

                            Which one is TaroNuke lol

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                            • Saturn2888
                              FFR Player
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 37

                              #44
                              Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

                              We actually started production of Pulsen over a year ago so I haven't added TaroNuke because by the time he started, both Pulsen and Pulsen: Ultra I were completed. He's gonna be credited when the next pack releases. That's another out of the water .

                              Since I don't want to give it away for others, I can't say which you got wrong, but I'll write out how many you got right including Jason: 3.
                              Last edited by Saturn2888; 12-4-2011, 06:02 PM.

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                              • TC_Halogen
                                Rhythm game specialist.
                                FFR Simfile Author
                                FFR Music Producer
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 19376

                                #45
                                Re: Pulsen, A new Stepmania Rip Off Game

                                Originally posted by Saturn2888
                                I'm always looking for talented people, but that doesn't mean everyone gets in either . I wouldn't mind auditioning if you're up for it. I'll try to give as much feedback as you're willing to take.

                                Go ahead and PM my your e-mail address or IM name (your preference), and we can talk about it further that way.
                                I posted my AIM on your FFR profile - refresh the page and you should see a little envelope to the right of your name, on the top right of the page.

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