Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

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  • kommisar
    Dark Chancellor
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    • Jun 2005
    • 7328

    #31
    Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

    i showed that pic as an example of layering.


    breaking the rules was never an issue, i'm talking about consistency. as i said in the video, i reviewed it to my liking and how i would do things. having said that, his file still has no structure of any kind and 90% of the notes just seem thrown in there with no purpose whatsoever. there is such a thing as a quality fun file, and there are definite guidelines to do so.

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    • gnr61
      FFR Simfile Author
      FFR Simfile Author
      • Oct 2005
      • 7251

      #32
      Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

      but thats.........one instrument...........................................the yellow notes were just random bs flourishes where its accented...or something : D

      and hey its all good i might even get some of his charts just for giggles and i may reach the same conclusions. sorry for giving you a hard time jus tryna set a good example for the kids (the kids!).

      ps. lmao did you just take that picture now
      Last edited by gnr61; 12-3-2009, 09:38 AM.
      squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

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      • kommisar
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        • Jun 2005
        • 7328

        #33
        Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

        yeah lmao.


        don't apologize. I had a good morning debating stepmania issues and practicing my english

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        • Patashu
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          • Apr 2006
          • 8609

          #34
          Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

          sometimes bs 16ths can be a valid way to accent a file

          the only real way to make a bad file is to step randomly; that is, the steps and patterns you use not matching up to the similarities and differences of the file in any consistent or progressive fashion

          things like the using freezes/jumps for certain vocals at random and not others kinds of things, or putting emphasis on the beat when it ought to be on the offbeat; those are indicative of trying to do something and doing it wrong
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          • Lain_Iwakura
            FFR Player
            • Nov 2003
            • 1000

            #35
            Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

            puppet

            qed fanboy
            <citruschild> safs

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            • jimerax
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              • Nov 2003
              • 8185

              #36
              Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

              well technicalty factors such as pr, layer, etc are commonly used because they are one of the most objectively understandable way of structuring. In an old standard even index friendly patterns were generally needed.

              although files that just follow them would be generic so you need to your own interpretation of the song to be original.

              ps. people play 2004 files because they are well known and it's a good way to show their skill by posting ss of those files, not because they are good compared to recent files.
              Last edited by jimerax; 12-3-2009, 04:21 PM.

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              • masuat
                FFR Player
                • Apr 2009
                • 133

                #37
                Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                Don't get it haven't all skilled stepartists who want to take their theory and stepping to the next level already gone ahead to solo, I mean at this point it's hard to say we haven't reached a saturation of the stuff already at least in 4 key.

                In my view it's a little futile in current SM packs to try to only accept ART and supa amazing perfect files that little music can supply. We've come to the point where even the outstanding have become commonplace and excellent solid files are never seeing the light of day just because like the song doesn't lend itself to being stepped beyond that arbitrary line of worshipped innovation or technique that seems to move higher pack by pack.

                Is releasing files that are not incredible and groundbreaking but still excellent on their own merits and above all enjoyable a bad thing? Is this not da true meaning of the stepman existence ??? ! ?! ?!

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                • Choofers
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 6205

                  #38
                  Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                  Originally posted by Patashu
                  sometimes bs 16ths can be a valid way to accent a file
                  Yeah, like stepping 16th note trills/jacks for screaming in metal simfiles (like in the bs file I'm about to release hehe)

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                  • Wyde
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                    FFR Simfile Author
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 332

                    #39
                    Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                    Chart seem playable enough I suppose, considering the patterns themselves don't seem to have anything deliberately or accidentally ultra-mega-mondo awkward to try and hit, and the difficulty seem relatively consistent for the most part from what I can tell. But yeah, them arrows pay so horrendously little attention to the music itself it's almost kinda funny. I always kinda thought the core idea of dance games was for the player to enjoy a game alongside the music, not forcing them to play against it or ignore it entirely.

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                    • Patashu
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                      • Apr 2006
                      • 8609

                      #40
                      Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                      Originally posted by Choofers
                      Yeah, like stepping 16th note trills/jacks for screaming in metal simfiles (like in the bs file I'm about to release hehe)
                      minion's abandonment LoL
                      Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker:
                      http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png
                      Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1)
                      http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

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                      • Dr Tran
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1134

                        #41
                        Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                        Originally posted by masuat
                        Don't get it haven't all skilled stepartists who want to take their theory and stepping to the next level already gone ahead to solo, I mean at this point it's hard to say we haven't reached a saturation of the stuff already at least in 4 key.
                        im still finding new stepping styles and improving my overall technique for singles .

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                        • masuat
                          FFR Player
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 133

                          #42
                          Re: Kommisar's Frenchman Stepmania Review episode 2

                          How inspriring to see the that some of the already successful and best in the business still maintain such a high level of work ethic towards ~stepman development~.

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