What's with the hostility towards Christians?

[devonin]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

2) We evolved from monkeys, who had evolved from something else. Here's a billion pieces of archaeological evidence to support this.

Squeek, come on man. Evolution does not say that man evolved from monkeys. It says that both man -and- monkeys evolved from a common ancestor.

[TheDrizzle2010]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

1) A super-powerful sky creature made it. Then the space creature made two humans and had them start a family with ten thousand children who all had incest and they decided to change the color of their skin and wander onto every single continent in the world without even knowing how to build a boat and learn all different languages and customs and somehow randomly forget over time that their parents were created by this super-powerful space creature and that there was some kind of magical garden where everything is happy and nobody can die but we're not allowed back into this place and we can't find it anymore.

This is not how the Christian Bible explains creation. The people didn't randomly decide to wander onto every single continent, they wanted to be "physically" as high as God and built a tower. Their tower was destroyed, God scattered them.

With that being said, not all people had forgotten about this "super-powerful space creature," evidenced by their desire to reach him.

Noah built an ark according to Genesis, therefore crafting a boat was not something unknown.

The absence of death was not confined within the Garden of Eden, and the banishment of man from the garden did not result in death. Death came from man's sin.

I'm not arguing your view on Christianity or any of your other points, it's just you're setting up the Christian straw man, so to speak. I agree that if you go to any remote country and ask them how they believe the world came to being, you'd get a thousand different responses, most referring to diety, but usually more than one.

[devonin]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

the people hadn't forgotten about this "super-powerful space creature," evidenced by their desire to reach him.

So everybody on Earth has always known about the christian God as taught to Adam and Eve and down through the ages? Funny how many areas of the world seem to have missed that particular religious memo.

[TheDrizzle2010]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

So everybody on Earth has always known about the christian God as taught to Adam and Eve and down through the ages? Funny how many areas of the world seem to have missed that particular religious memo.

As his argument went from this statement to his statement about a magical garden, I figured he was referring to the time-line near these events, not today.

After reading your post, I see how my point was ill-worded. Fix'd.

[Andrew Mitchell]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

From one of Squeek's links: [EXTREMELY GRAPHIC, FEAR FOR YOUR LIFE] Jehovah's Witness guy refuses to get tumor operation early on, this is what happens.

Stories like this infuriate me.

*will come back with more thread-relevant arguments later, lunch beckons*

He's standing up for what he belives in, good for him.

[~kitty~]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

Religion is so stupid, yet it is a subject that is argued over and over again, countless times.

The fact is that this isn't about stupid or not stupid. This is an argument over belief and failure to understand what people BELIEVE the Bible is there to explain.

Thus, this subject will continue to be argued until some combination settlement occurs.

"What's wrong with people?" <--- Ask yourself what's wrong with you, and you'll find out the answer.

EDIT: To clear up any confusions that may occur from the implication of my statement, I would have to say that I am responding to the OP.

[Devilsrejectedsoul]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

I grew up with my grandparent, I used to go to chruch alot
then around the time my mtoher died I noticed, There is no god for me.
I am an atheist
But I don't force my view of the world into other throats.
I say believe what you believe.
Whatever makes you happy in this world.
Yes some may say omfg you gave up cause your mother died
well growing up my father was in the navy was dis-honored out by drugs.
My mother also got into drugs she went to chruch alot and tried to stop but what happens?
She Dies, a week before my birthday....
So I noticed even though she prayed every day and also went to chruch much as she can she still died.
So I choose to believe there is no god.
But I won't tell others they should believe that too.
I tihnk people just need to be more tolerate in the world and people will be much happier less wars more treats in science and medicine.
So it's not really about religon but mroe tolerence people don't have.

[tsugomaru]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

Woah woah woah

It's hard to take your post seriously when you have a sentence in each line.

~Tsugomaru

[fido123]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

There is no proof against Christianity so you can not say its false but you cant say its completely true. There are also fasle Christians that are bad examples for Chrisianity.

According to Christianity, evolution is false. Well, abiogensis proves that evolution can occur, and transitional fossils prove that evolution DID occur. Therefore if evolution occurred, God didn't make us therefore Christianity is false.

I grew up with my grandparent, I used to go to chruch alot
then around the time my mtoher died I noticed, There is no god for me.
I am an atheist
But I don't force my view of the world into other throats.
I say believe what you believe.
Whatever makes you happy in this world.
Yes some may say omfg you gave up cause your mother died
well growing up my father was in the navy was dis-honored out by drugs.
My mother also got into drugs she went to chruch alot and tried to stop but what happens?
She Dies, a week before my birthday....
So I noticed even though she prayed every day and also went to chruch much as she can she still died.
So I choose to believe there is no god.
But I won't tell others they should believe that too.
I tihnk people just need to be more tolerate in the world and people will be much happier less wars more treats in science and medicine.
So it's not really about religon but mroe tolerence people don't have.

According to Christianity God works in mysterious ways, and even though I understand you were very depressed about the subject, and I don't personally think Christianity is true, you obviously didn't have faith in the first place as the Bible clearly states you are not meant to understand what he does, he will not interfere with free will therefore what humans do to each other is out of what he will control, and according to the Bible if your mom is in heaven you'll see her there.

[Izzy]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

According to Christianity, evolution is false. Well, abiogensis proves that evolution can occur, and transitional fossils prove that evolution DID occur. Therefore if evolution occurred, God didn't make us therefore Christianity is false.

Which is related to what i was saying earlier. How can christians just ignore this part and accept evolution, but then still consider themselves a christian. So pretty much christians will continue to change their beliefs every time they get evidence against them. They have many times in history and I can't see them stopping anytime soon.

It is like they think that evidence against one part of the bible doesn't count towards the entire thing.

"well a huge section of this book is BS, but the other part has to be true...."

[dore]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

Which is related to what i was saying earlier. How can christians just ignore this part and accept evolution, but then still consider themselves a christian. So pretty much christians will continue to change their beliefs every time they get evidence against them. They have many times in history and I can't see them stopping anytime soon.

It is like they think that evidence against one part of the bible doesn't count towards the entire thing.

"well a huge section of this book is BS, but the other part has to be true...."

A large portion of protestants don't believe in a literal interpretation of the Old Testament, but rather look at its message from a literary standpoint. Themes from the text are interpreted as guidelines to live life by, not a play-by-play of how the world came to be. To not put it eloquently, they don't literally believe the Jewish part of the Bible.

Yeah, a lot of vocal, belligerent Christians may believe verbatim the entire Bible but it's definitely not a majority, and you're not going to convince anyone their faith is wrong by trying to disprove the denotation of the Old Testament. Try to disprove the New Testament first.

[korny]

Re: What's with the hostility towards Christians?

Accept Jesus in your heart and you will be saved. What a cop out.