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  • lightswitch_raves
    FFR Player
    • Dec 2003
    • 432

    #16
    flcl shows us that life is far far too boring.
    t(\'-\'t)

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    • jewpinthethird
      (The Fat's Sabobah)
      FFR Music Producer
      • Nov 2002
      • 11711

      #17
      Originally posted by Lupin_the_3rd
      yeah...when jewpin comes here he will be able to talk about furi kuri...he is like the furi kuri master
      I am the Evangelion Master, not FLCL. (Actually, I have a Ph.D in Evangelion. Or so I claim). I am just extremely fond of FLCL. It is my second favorite anime. I havent put as much thought into FLCL as I have Evangelion (4 years of research including paradoxes, religious symbolism, and themes).

      You have inspired me to create a new thread. (I'll do it someday)

      Now, back to FLCL. There are a lot of similarities between Shinji and Naoto. Both are jealous of their fathers (Oedipus complex), but have insane responsiblities for there age (Shinji-13, Naoto-12), and both are emotionally warped. Both have troubles with women (although it doesnt seem like that for Naoto, it is).

      I think in both animes, there is a theme that with responsiblity comes sacrifice. I dont know, I have been meaning to watch FLCL again. Which I will in the next week or so. After that, I will have some really good ideas.

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      • lightswitch_raves
        FFR Player
        • Dec 2003
        • 432

        #18
        Originally posted by jewpinthethird
        Originally posted by Lupin_the_3rd
        yeah...when jewpin comes here he will be able to talk about furi kuri...he is like the furi kuri master
        I am the Evangelion Master, not FLCL. (Actually, I have a Ph.D in Evangelion. Or so I claim). I am just extremely fond of FLCL. It is my second favorite anime. I havent put as much thought into FLCL as I have Evangelion (4 years of research including paradoxes, religious symbolism, and themes).

        You have inspired me to create a new thread. (I'll do it someday)

        Now, back to FLCL. There are a lot of similarities between Shinji and Naoto. Both are jealous of their fathers (Oedipus complex), but have insane responsiblities for there age (Shinji-13, Naoto-12), and both are emotionally warped. Both have troubles with women (although it doesnt seem like that for Naoto, it is).

        I think in both animes, there is a theme that with responsiblity comes sacrifice. I dont know, I have been meaning to watch FLCL again. Which I will in the next week or so. After that, I will have some really good ideas.
        thats incredible. i have never seen anyone use flcl, evangelion and sigmund freud theories in the same post before. now, if you had worked serial experiments lain in there, i would have rendered you a god.

        in my opinion, i beleive that gainax truly wasnt going for the "universal theme" in flcl, as they did in eva. i think with flcl, they tried to throw a money making anime together, and the result was a mass melting pot full of crackheads and almost impossible to comprehend characters. And its incredibly how well it turned out to be.
        t(\'-\'t)

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        • lightdarkness
          Summer!!
          • Jul 2003
          • 11310

          #19
          i was not saying i dont belive blue is really blue
          i was just making a point, as saying how do we know what is what we say it is, it is a pre set image in our minds.

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          • jewpinthethird
            (The Fat's Sabobah)
            FFR Music Producer
            • Nov 2002
            • 11711

            #20
            Originally posted by lightswitch_raves
            Originally posted by jewpinthethird
            Originally posted by Lupin_the_3rd
            yeah...when jewpin comes here he will be able to talk about furi kuri...he is like the furi kuri master
            I am the Evangelion Master, not FLCL. (Actually, I have a Ph.D in Evangelion. Or so I claim). I am just extremely fond of FLCL. It is my second favorite anime. I havent put as much thought into FLCL as I have Evangelion (4 years of research including paradoxes, religious symbolism, and themes).

            You have inspired me to create a new thread. (I'll do it someday)

            Now, back to FLCL. There are a lot of similarities between Shinji and Naoto. Both are jealous of their fathers (Oedipus complex), but have insane responsiblities for there age (Shinji-13, Naoto-12), and both are emotionally warped. Both have troubles with women (although it doesnt seem like that for Naoto, it is).

            I think in both animes, there is a theme that with responsiblity comes sacrifice. I dont know, I have been meaning to watch FLCL again. Which I will in the next week or so. After that, I will have some really good ideas.
            thats incredible. i have never seen anyone use flcl, evangelion and sigmund freud theories in the same post before. now, if you had worked serial experiments lain in there, i would have rendered you a god.

            in my opinion, i beleive that gainax truly wasnt going for the "universal theme" in flcl, as they did in eva. i think with flcl, they tried to throw a money making anime together, and the result was a mass melting pot full of crackheads and almost impossible to comprehend characters. And its incredibly how well it turned out to be.
            Well, just the fact that someone besides me knows what FLCL, EVANGELION, and the Oedipus complex is, I am quite amazed myself. One of these days I'll have my full Essay on Evangelion written out and I'll post it when I do. Since last year, I have been forced to do comparative essays for IB English HL1...so it is sort of second nature to do so.

            I agree, FLCL...although very...frantic...still very very good. If it were a longer series, it might have even surpassed Evangelion in my opinion. I also love the animation in FLCL.

            I have yet to see Serial Experiments Lain..but now I will make an effort too. I hadnt heard much about it, so it wasnt on my "to see" list.

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            • MalReynolds
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              • Sep 2003
              • 6571

              #21
              All of those are rip-offs of Plato's Algorithim of the Cave. Look it up. It's pretty interesting.


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              • jewpinthethird
                (The Fat's Sabobah)
                FFR Music Producer
                • Nov 2002
                • 11711

                #22
                Already read it. And none those have anything in common with Algorithim of the Cave. AOTC has to do with someone "seeing the light" (or discovering that of which they believed to be true, not to be.) Returning to the cave, trying to explain their discoverings to the others who had not become wise to the truth, and having the others not believe them.

                Evangelion is about how Humanity has become dirty and worthless/how pain is "reality", just as love is, and we need to learn to deal with it/ how individuality is what makes us humans...and a lot of religious symbolism (as I will explain in my essay).

                FLCL is about how...uh...well, it does have a meaning some where....But not that of AOTC.

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                • Yanah_God
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1330

                  #23
                  i'm not reading 2 pages of posts, so i'm responding to the original topic

                  FLCL is an anime

                  it doesn't mean shit, it's just there to stare at and give you siezures

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                  • jewpinthethird
                    (The Fat's Sabobah)
                    FFR Music Producer
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 11711

                    #24
                    Yanah, contray to popular belief, books and movies often times do have an underlining meaning that relates to society. But I wouldnt expect you to know that.

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                    • Yanah_God
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1330

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Yanah_God
                      FLCL is an anime

                      it doesn't mean (#$%, it's just there to stare at and give you siezures

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                      • heyhey11
                        FFR Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 403

                        #26
                        Originally posted by lightswitch_raves
                        i would have rendered you a god.
                        i have already rendered jewpin as the holy spirit
                        Originally posted by 87x
                        if some dude was hiding in the bushes trying to get a picture of me.. and i found him.. thats an invasion of privacy.. ima whoop his ass.. then sue him.. then have sex with his wife just out of spite

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                        • Yanah_God
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1330

                          #27
                          Originally posted by lightdarkness
                          Damn, that is some deep (#$%, It is very true what morphus said, but then again, he is fictional. But about what our minds think, who decided that the color of the forums is blue, why isnt what we see as blue, red. We cannot describe the color blue, other than "blue" the giver was an exelent book, towards the end, when the memories of the past were released, color began to show, so when you think back to when your a kid, who told you what was blue, or red? I cannot remember, and i betcha big money you dont either, if we wanted to, overgenerations we could change the view on peoples lifes
                          Originally posted by Mouse
                          How do we know everything tastes like chicken, what if chicken tastes like everything else
                          Something like that
                          do you even know how vision works?

                          light is just bouncing off of objects which have a certain hue and it comes back and our eyes translate it into colors

                          and for blue being red... it's not, look.. anywhere

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                          • Falcon
                            FFR Player
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 433

                            #28
                            i think the point that whoever it was was trying to make was... what if what we believe is blue is truly red? perhaps when the person who named colors, whoever that might have been, he said what we see as blue was red. but somewhere down the line, someone decided that "red" was "blue". it becomes impossibly complicated and theres no real use in discussing it. blue is blue, red is red.

                            as for the matrix theory, for it to work all humans would have to be dreaming the same dream of the same world, and their dreams would have to be directly connected to the actions that happen in other peoples dreams. for instance, i could dream that there are no other cars on a road that i am driving on, and someone else could be dreaming the same thing. would we hit? if our worlds were concurrent, then yes, more than likely we would. that brings up the thought that we could all be in our own separate dream worlds... but would our minds be twisted enough to dream some of the things that happen in the world? as for a situation that is exactly like the matrix... i guess it could be possible. its ridiculous to think about, but there is no way to tell whether we are being controlled by machines outside of our dream world.

                            as for FLCL and eva, never seen either. i'll wait for the doctors book.

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                            • jewpinthethird
                              (The Fat's Sabobah)
                              FFR Music Producer
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 11711

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Yanah_God
                              Originally posted by Yanah_God
                              FLCL is an anime

                              it doesn't mean (#$%, it's just there to stare at and give you siezures
                              You see Yanah. You have mistaken the cartoonish look of ANIME to be children's shows. Until you see Evangelion or FLCL, shut up you arrogant baffoon.

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                              • MalReynolds
                                CHOCK FULL O' NUTRIENTS
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 6571

                                #30
                                Originally posted by jewpinthethird
                                Originally posted by Yanah_God
                                Originally posted by Yanah_God
                                FLCL is an anime

                                it doesn't mean (#$%, it's just there to stare at and give you siezures
                                You see Yanah. You have mistaken the cartoonish look of ANIME to be children's shows. Until you see Evangelion or FLCL, shut up you arrogant baffoon.
                                Yanah, you need to learn to pick and choose your fights. I didn't fight about the AOTC, because hey! I wasn't right. Looks like you need to learn to do that, too.


                                Mal
                                "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."

                                "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor


                                My new novel:

                                Maledictions: The Offering.

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