I Have a Question about why people cheat and how.

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  • Hyrogashi
    FFR Simfile Author
    FFR Simfile Author
    • Nov 2002
    • 961

    #16
    I have discussed this with Synthlight before. Through our research, and tests that Synthlight asked me to run, I can confirm that it is completely impossible to hack the game through any address/value manipulation programs, no matter how good you are at them. (Which if I do say so myself, I am quite skilled with value manipulation.) I believe that it is much more complicated than anyone thinks. If Synthlight cannot figure it out directly, It has to be difficult. Whatever it is, It has to do with serverside editing. I believe that there are actually .swf programs made for flash program code that are used to do these things. However the unexpliccable part is, FFR scores are completely serverside. .swf programs could only be clientside.

    That's All I know, and can say.
    Dont take life so seriously, You\'ll never escape it alive anyways.

    Hyrogashiroth - Born on DWI, Raised on Stepmania

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    • makaveli121212
      FFR Player
      • May 2003
      • 3823

      #17
      i still want to know why synth blew up on me...he actually pissed me off, calling me a cheater and a hacker and what not
      Originally posted by VxDx
      Stick it in her butt and pee.

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      • QreepyBORIS
        FFR Player
        • Feb 2003
        • 7454

        #18
        Either that, or he thought your avatar was gay.

        Signature subject to change.

        THE ZERRRRRG.

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        • Quizkid23
          FFR Player
          • Jul 2003
          • 446

          #19
          Hey qreepy, look down a bit from mak's av. and look at yours. Mak's av. is funny, yours is... annoying.

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          • makaveli121212
            FFR Player
            • May 2003
            • 3823

            #20
            i like my av...you really think its gay? qreepys is ok...ive seen worse, but it really does look like that gut has a penis for a head or helmet, and i really cant see that av being funny, well maybe stupid funny or just stupid
            Originally posted by VxDx
            Stick it in her butt and pee.

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            • QreepyBORIS
              FFR Player
              • Feb 2003
              • 7454

              #21
              ...It's a trebuchet target.

              Signature subject to change.

              THE ZERRRRRG.

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              • Yanah_the_Master
                Banned
                • Apr 2003
                • 1126

                #22
                shit, that's a lot of big posts

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                • 87x
                  Retired Staff
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 4379

                  #23
                  ok... heres my evaluation of the situation... i know nothing of hacking/value editing or anything else that has to do with cheating the system... what i DO know is that having a slow computer with the right specs slows down the game not makes it laggy... i know this from a years worth of school experience... allo wme to explain..
                  during our school year we were assigned laptops... these laptops sucked... they were macs.. when i played ffr on the lowest settings the arrows ran slowly.. not laggy but slowly.. allowing me to be able to get "high scores" (as i thought they were back then) on rondo (which was the hardest song at the time)...... also in my computer class when we were supposed to be doing typing projects i would get on ffr and play... another POS computer with the same results... slower moving arrows.. not lagging moving arrows... so with a slow computer it is VERY possible for someone to do extremely well on the harder songs...


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                  87x: more like.. professional goth.

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                  • SotN
                    FFR Player
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 1159

                    #24
                    I've been thinking about the possibility of a "stepbot" program. It could be possible, but it would require alot of trial/error or access to the timings of the songs. Any high scores generated with this would be impossible to detect, however.

                    However, this could be possible with MegaMan Wily Theme, since the steps are available on Nestle's website. That would still require trial/error, though.
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                    • 87x
                      Retired Staff
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 4379

                      #25
                      I've been thinking about the possibility of a "stepbot" program. It could be possible, but it would require alot of trial/error or access to the timings of the songs. Any high scores generated with this would be impossible to detect, however.

                      However, this could be possible with MegaMan Wily Theme, since the steps are available on Nestle's website. That would still require trial/error, though.
                      this is the most probable theory... in my mind... i had never even thought of something like this... i wouldn't think it would be too hard to create either... but you would still hve to be somewhat good to be able to pass the song to see the next part to program into the app. but good thinking SotN


                      edit: i dont know how in the hell i got my typing mixed up in his quote... but any way... heres the edit..


                      RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer.
                      87x: more like.. professional goth.

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                      • Hyrogashi
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        FFR Simfile Author
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 961

                        #26
                        Yes, We can read, Congratulations I see you can as well.

                        EDIT: =O! this is my one thousanth post on FFR forums. Bow to me underlings.
                        Dont take life so seriously, You\'ll never escape it alive anyways.

                        Hyrogashiroth - Born on DWI, Raised on Stepmania

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                        • Quizkid23
                          FFR Player
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 446

                          #27
                          Heh nice job hyro. Oh yes and 87x typed other stuff inside the quote, it's not the same crap that sotn wrote. (Not implying that the idea was crap of course, good thinking!)

                          Hey 87x, I just noticed. Get 20 more posts and you're at 3000.

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                          • 87x
                            Retired Staff
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 4379

                            #28
                            Yes, We can read, Congratulations I see you can as well.
                            .. yea i can read... but you must not be able too... seeing as how you missed my major typing error...


                            RAVEnHEXa: Lip ring is because I want to be a professional piercer.
                            87x: more like.. professional goth.

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                            • AlternateOblivion
                              FFR Player
                              • May 2003
                              • 216

                              #29
                              You know if you tell people about the stepbots, it would give people ideas about making a program. I know some programmers that probably can. I've programmed a game similer to FFR, using letters in place of arrows and is extremely hard.

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                              • bballplaya
                                FFR Player
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 1007

                                #30
                                Slow computers are for cheaters! Hey wat a sec. we have that really slow computer in the basement. JK.
                                Originally posted by tnyhwk900
                                We need Arch0wl in his worst mood in here to say how much we hate AlternateOblivion .
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