How come god created the tree of knowledge?

[Grandiagod]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

I love all this specualation about beings that have no evidence to support their existance.

[Patashu]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

Now, who's to say what's a metaphor? The bible is very confusing, especially look at revelations. Now, which parts in there are metaphors and which are to be taken literal? ><

I wouldn't take anything in the bible for its face meaning alone.

PS: 8) Grandiagod

[slipstrike0159]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

I love all this specualation about beings that have no evidence to support their existance.

Sure it may be speculation, but as far as evidence, you can go off of the bible, and the book of mormon, whether you believe them to be legitimate sources for the basis of answering questins is your perogative. Angels are (from what i know) to just be children of god chosen to be messengers. When you look at all the accounts of various visions and such you can see that angels appear to people to give information. The way i see it, they arent much different than anyone else that has died or hasnt been born yet, but they are more like celestialized beings sent to do the work of god.

[Leatherhead]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

im thinking that God made the tree of knowledge so those who seek more of a physical presence to explain things, they can go to it and God can speak through it... Simple enough =\

[Grandiagod]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

im thinking that God made the tree of knowledge so those who seek more of a physical presence to explain things, they can go to it and God can speak through it... Simple enough =\

I'm an athiest, but I even I know that isn't how the Bible interprets it. Eating the fruit was a BAD thing.

PS. Hi kashazu, TBB, Shimazu

[Leatherhead]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

that wasn't the same thing :I

[Doug31]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

I hope anyone that's old enough to be on this site that answered, "Whats the bible?" was trying to be funny. Anyway, I've never even read it, but I still don't believe it.
P.S. there should be an apostrophe in "Whats" in the poll.

[sjoecool1991]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

God did know eve would eat from the tree, He's omniscient.

[RandomPscho]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

God did know eve would eat from the tree, He's omniscient.

Then you must ask why he would make a 'test' if he already knew the outcome, and what he would do after.

[slipstrike0159]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

Because if he didnt give us the opportunity to make our own mistakes then we would be doing what satan wanted which was to force all of us to be righteous. Plus the fact that all life is as a test, and how would you like to have a teacher give you a test and then immediately give it away before you looked at it and told you that you got a C when you sure you were going to do well?

[RandomPscho]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

Because if he didnt give us the opportunity to make our own mistakes then we would be doing what satan wanted which was to force all of us to be righteous.

Is he really giving an opportunity if the outcome is already predetermined?

Plus the fact that all life is as a test, and how would you like to have a teacher give you a test and then immediately give it away before you looked at it and told you that you got a C when you sure you were going to do well?

But he would already know before you even take the 'test' how you did, what you did right and wrong, and the consequences. The choices in the test are an illusion because the outcome is already known and inevitable.

[slipstrike0159]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

Look, it is not 'predetermined'. It doesnt happen or it isnt chosen to happen before it actually does, but because of his omnipotence he isnt limited to being in one time period, he knows what will happen but that doesnt mean he can or will change it. It also goes back to a discussion i was having earlier, if he would have not even let us take the 'test' then there would be no outcome because it wouldnt have happened.

[RandomPscho]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

Maybe I am not understanding something. Could you please explain to me how if the outcome is already known, how is it not predetermined? He already knows what your choice will be, so it is not really a choice that you are making, only an illusion of one.

[slipstrike0159]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

You are still making the decision to go through with the action regardless if you know the outcome or not. No one 'determined' what would happen before hand, he just know all that is, was, and will be. If you yourself still dont take the action to produce the outcome that someone already knew would happen, then there wouldnt be the result that was known ahead of time in which case he would know that you didnt make that decision making it still your choice. Its like if you knew that when your friend mixed two elements that they would explode, regardless of if you knew before or not, it still happens if he chooses to do it or not. And besides, he doesnt tell us because if we didnt experience it ourselves then we would learn anything. What is life? a learning experience in which you use that knowledge to pass the 'test'.

[RandomPscho]

Re: How come god created the tree of knowledge?

But he would already know whether or not you do the action, and whether or not you change your mind to do the action before any of this occurs, so you changing what you think will happen is already known.

Its like if you knew that when your friend mixed two elements that they would explode, regardless of if you knew before or not, it still happens if he chooses to do it or not.

But you are forgetting if I was god I would already know what he was going to do, as I am all knowing. I would know if he chooses to mix the elements or not and what would be the result of whichever I know he will choose.

I am not talking about him intervening or him making us learn our own lessons etc.