Rockstar Games' Bully Video Game is Getting Bad Remarks

[IAAW]

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I worked in a video game store over the holiday season that Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas came out. I told people who were purchasing it for their kids that there was vast amounts of violence, swearing, and sex in the game, in the hopes that they wouldn't purchase it. Inevitably, however, they'd just say "it's no worse than what they see on TV" and buy it. I'd usually sigh and ring it up, because I mean, it was my job and so I did it.

People honest to god need to learn to parent. I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that there are so many of the current generation of parents that really didn't have much parenting themsleves, coming out of the hippie generation.

I agree on this. I mostly assume that parents don't have actual understanding of the ESRB coding on the games. Also, I actually have played M and T-rated games without ACTUALLY being the proper age to do so, but I know that graphical violence just isn't up-to-scale with realistic violence.

On the other hand, I don't think that anything can be done.

[Squeek]

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Le sigh.

See, my mom checked what I wanted to spend my money on all the time. I wasn't allowed to buy albums with that "explicit lyrics" label on it until I was 16 (by that time, I never bought albums anyway. It was a good idea to save money in the long run). I wasn't allowed to buy R-rated movies until I was 17 (and again, by this time, I didn't care for movies either. Internet <3). I didn't buy an M-rated game until I was 18, but that's only because most M-rated games suck anyway.

[WillTalbot]

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I researched the game it looks really good. They shouldn't ban a game because its bad. Parents shoud have parental supervision over their kids buying games instead of just banning the games themselves.

[Squeek]

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I don't wanna bump my thread about Jack Thompson's court case from over a week ago, so I'll just throw this here.

Original thread: http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=51679

Updated news!

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/bully/jack-faces-jail-over-bully-209583.php

Take-Two Interactive lawyers have filed a motion to have Jack Thompson declared in contempt of court.

The motion requests that Judge Ronald Friendman, who sat on the hearing overseeing Thompson's failed attempt to have Bully banned, order the Floida lawyer to appear in court and defend himself against the contempt allegation.

If found in contempt, Thompson could face anything from fines, to censure or even jail time.

Should be interesting.

[hi19hi19]

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Thompson is perfectly able to excerscise his own free will to be a jackass, and yet everyone who touches a video game is brainwashed and irrevocably set on a path of destruction.

Sure...

I'm glad someone is taking the fight to him. His actions remind me almost of McCarthyism (sp?)

[GuidoHunter]

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I worked in a video game store over the holiday season that Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas came out. I told people who were purchasing it for their kids that there was vast amounts of violence, swearing, and sex in the game, in the hopes that they wouldn't purchase it. Inevitably, however, they'd just say "it's no worse than what they see on TV" and buy it. I'd usually sigh and ring it up, because I mean, it was my job and so I did it.

People honest to god need to learn to parent. I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that there are so many of the current generation of parents that really didn't have much parenting themsleves, coming out of the hippie generation.

I don't see a problem with buying such a game for your kids if you sincerely think that your kids are mature enough to handle it. I'm not certain my mom would have bought me ultra-violent games if she knew what was involved, but that would have been more an objection to the game on her part than her thinking that the game would mess me up or drive me to commit some heinous crime.

But the rationale that "it's no worse than what they see on TV" is a horrible, horrible excuse. There's a BIG difference between watching someone else do it and having that control yourself.

@IAAW: That most certainly was no glitch.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[this_n00b_rocks]

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Because they assume.

Rockstar (GTA? Beating up people / killing people?) + Bullying = O NO VIOLENCE IN SCHOOLS

Without even playing the game or figuring out what it's about.

In the immortal words of Stephen King, "Never assume. It makes an ass out of you and me."

I think that video games aren't the problem, the kids are. I knew a senior that had a 4.2 GPA (not impossible, extra credit XD), was on the varsity Cross-Country team, and was the president of a club. Not to mention that he had a well-paying job, a nice car, and a girlfriend that he's had for over a year. He's an avid player of GTA and now Bully. Does he have any violent tendencies? No. Jack Thompson looks at the negative side of video games, but doesn't see the positive side. Is there a positive side to GTA and Bully? GTA shows that in real life, there are people that are going to be assholes. Same with Bully.

[emptiness]

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Case Closed: game is sold anyway

[CartoonDancer]

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Well, based on what I read on Yahoo! News, these people think the game states that the only way to live your life is "bully everyone, or you won't survive". I think they should give the game a chance. IMO, people are much too judgemental these days.

[Squeek]

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Bump!

Ohnoes! Bully has boy-boy kissing!

GAY SEX.

BAN THE GAME.

It turns out that the school violence simulation game Bully also contains homosexual activity between the game's hero, Jimmy Hopkins, and other male students.

It is my legal opinion that the sale of this game to minors, which is presently occurring at your stores in Florida, violates Florida's "Sexual Material Harmful to Minors Statute," Florida Statute 847.102. Each such sale to a minor constitutes a separate felony. Such sales are occurring to children of all ages because of the game's wholly inappropriate "Teen" rating, as opposed to the "Mature" rating it deserves. A recent Reuters story indicates that parental concern about this is growing, as reportage of this new video game industry scandal is making headlines today around the world.

I already have pending a Florida lawsuit to stop the sale of Bully to minors, and now that we know that it contains not only high levels of unpunished violence but also homosexual acts the lawsuit will be amended to proceed against it and some of you who are defendants therein on these dual grounds.

I suggest strongly that all of you cease and desist all such sales in the United States immediately. Neither the game's maker, Take-Two, nor the Entertainment Software Rating Board, told you of this homosexual content, which constitutes a fraudulent and deceptive trade practice, in my opinion, on their parts, and I have alerted the Federal Trade Commission to this.

However, now each of you knows, and from now on, from this minute forward, you are all on the hook.

Ugh. He's trying too hard. And failing miserably.

As was in the comments from the news site I got this from, it's clear that Thompson sees kissing as sex. So, that means any activity between any two people is sex, right? Holding hands is sex! Watch out!

Obviously he wouldn't care if it were male-female kissing. So why is homosexual kissing wrong?

What a hypocritical jerk. People can be heterosexual and not mind homosexual activities. I mean, nobody really minds female-female kissing. So why is male-male wrong?

[IAAW]

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As it's considered "gay". And I think dear ol' Thompson doesn't want a whole second generation of "gay" people. I think people who have issues on "gay" people really don't have a life. And yes, Thompson is failing miserably. But Rockstar should probably put an M rating on the game so Thompson will shut up. Like the M rating has stopped minors from buying GTA before.

[Afrobean]

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Uh oh guys.

You can make a guy kiss another guy in the Sims.

Better give it a MA rating, even though the game is many years old and is currently obsolete. Also: go back and charge everyone who sold it to anyone in the age range of 14-17 with a felony.

That's also ignoring the fact that you only have homosexual kissing if you CHOOSE to and that this homosexual kissing is not necessary to complete the game.

[Squeek]

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See, that's the thing with Jackie.

He ignores anything that doesn't come from Take Two / Rockstar.

You could actually partake in gay sex in Fable. Not "kissing". Actual sex.

[IAAW]

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Rockstar should still probably put an M Rating on the game so Jack Thompson can feel good. But this doesn't mean I support dear ol' Thompson; I still think that he shouldn't be pushing this hard for a game that has kissing. Kissing = not sex. A man sleeping with a woman = sex.

I think we all should come together in a picket line in front of the Rockstar building and protest that this game SHOULD hit the shelves, and stand on our reasons behind it. Also, somehow, I don't think dear ol' Thompson doesn't know when to quit and accept the fact that he's not gonna win.

[Squeek]

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It's already on the shelves.

Welcome to last week.