Psychokinesis and Psychoinspired Events

[Kit-]

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Evolution is driven by enhanced reproductive success for some alleles compared to others. Thus, after millions of years, we'll all be hot.

[sjoecool1991]

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Evolution is a stupid thoery.

[GuidoHunter]

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Evolution is a stupid thoery.

No, it's not. In fact, it's so good of an idea that it's been given the highest title of theory, which basically means that you'd have to be a complete idiot to not believe it.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[sjoecool1991]

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I'm a Christian and a evolutionist christian would just be a walking contradiction.
And I don't think the earth is bilios of years old, and I also do not belive in the big bang.


Edit: I am not saying anyone who belives in it stupid, what I am saying is that anyone can believe in whatever they want to believe in.

[GuidoHunter]

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what I am saying is that anyone can believe in whatever they want to believe in.

a evolutionist christian would just be a walking contradiction.

Guess what. It's not, and I don't appreciate people like you perpetuating this idea, because it's only further separating a rift between science and religion that shouldn't exist in the first place.

Science deals with the testable.
Religion deals with the untestable.

As you can see, there is no overlap, so a Christian evolutionist (mind you, I hate using the term evolutionist because it implies a distinction which I'm arguing shouldn't exist) is not a contradiction.

I'm a Christian. I believe God created the heavens and the Earth and all that walks on it, yet I have no problem whatsoever reconciling that with evolution as coexisting processes.

Being a Christian doesn't mean I have to suspend my rational thinking to believe in evolution. God tells us to revere and honor our bodies and minds, yet you insist on dismissing such a wonderful, capable, and expansive mind by believing in a young Earth? Come on, we have human brains for a reason.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Mystik3345]

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The human body can do amazing things if you set your mind to it, the brain controls the body. But the brain has no influence whatsoever on anything outside of itself or the body.

[sjoecool1991]

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well, the reason why i dont believe in evolution is that I believe that God created all things the way they are meant to be. Not that they evolve from something else.

[Patashu]

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well, the reason why i dont believe in evolution is that I believe that God created all things the way they are meant to be. Not that they evolve from something else.

Wouldn't it be such an amazingly clever trick if God was smart enough not to create things as they are, but to create things that would eventually create all life he envisioned?

[SlipKnot666Midnight]

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Zild, you already know how I feel on Astrology, so I'll let that go, but...

You can't "channel energy" with your mind. Your anecdote proves nothing. Is it any wonder to you why the other experiments are too random or rare?

People have been "warping metal with their mind" for ages, and they have no supernatural powers. Take Uri Geller for a good example. They're magicians, not psychics. And you believe it because you saw it on TV? So Criss Angel can really levitate, too?

If you actually can do these things, hell, if ANYONE can actually do these things, then there's one million dollars just WAITING for you to claim it.

--Guido

Exactly, the fact someone is born during a certain time of the year does not mean they will act a certain way. "I am Aries, so I must hate Libra". Astrology has no basis, and Criss Angel just uses Camera tricks. His show is edited over and over before it even goes on air, if he can really do these things, he would have won 1 million dollars, offered by James Randi.

And also, If you don't "believe" in evolution, go ahead. I would like this "god" of yours to explain Dinosaur fossils and how they got there when there is no mention of them in your almighty bible.

[sjoecool1991]

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Well, I dont believe in phsycokinesis or magic, but Chris Angel is a genius.
Some of his tricks are not edited though, he just distracts the person with one hand and makes it look like something else. Its really quite amazing.

[Iam_a_Maid]

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You people misunderstand me, again. Should I spell it out? I wasn't talking specifically about the main topic of this thread. What I am saying makes perfect sense. Humans are curious, that's one of the main reasons we keep going forward. All I implied, people with your way of thinking won't help with progress directly. Indirectly, most contribute, but that is a given.

The world was flat once upon a time and it was the "truth"...

And also, If you don't "believe" in evolution, go ahead. I would like this "god" of yours to explain Dinosaur fossils and how they got there when there is no mention of them in your almighty bible.

He'd just pretend he didn't see it and say nothing. Which would be the best course of action. Of course I wouldn't expect miracles. ;0

I_am_maid do you think that humans will evolve in the future? As far as I know humans havent evolded in the past. 2-3000 years ago our brains and mental capicities were the same as they are today as they will be 2-3000 years into the future. Technology has changed by we havent and wont.

Yes, the usual absolute terms. We throw them out like candy without thinking.

"As far as I know" - this was extremely funny. I do hope you get it.

[windsurfer-sp]

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Yes, the usual absolute terms. We throw them out like candy without thinking.

"As far as I know" - this was extremely funny. I do hope you get it.

The reason I was saying "as far as I know" was that i wasnt around 2000/3000 years ago to do an IQ test of humans. I know of no evidence which would suggest that peoples brain power was lower back then so "as far as I know" humans brain power has remained constant.

And also, If you don't "believe" in evolution, go ahead. I would like this "god" of yours to explain Dinosaur fossils and how they got there when there is no mention of them in your almighty bible.

I am a Christan and i do not belive entirely either of the theroies. I belive that God did the create the Earth but I also belive that evolution in some forms do occur in nature. Im not really sure what make more sense in terms of the universe but I belive that there is a God who created it.

I also think that the odds of a livable planet to be randomly made are so slim that we had to be created.

The reason that dinosaurs were not metioned in the bible is that the bible was written by humans after the time of dinosaurs so the humans at the time were obvisouly not aware of dinosaurs. Even though they were told what to write by God, God could not simply get them to write about something that made absolutely no sense to them at the time.

[Reach]

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I_am_maid do you think that humans will evolve in the future? As far as I know humans havent evolded in the past. 2-3000 years ago our brains and mental capicities were the same as they are today as they will be 2-3000 years into the future. Technology has changed by we havent and wont.

That's a huge huge long shot. We have actually evolved in the past 2-3000 years, slightly. A lot of people studying the human brain think it is changing EXTREMELY rapidly, faster than ever. There is actually evidence to suggest we will change quite a bit, assuming we don't wipe ourselves out.

Suggesting that we won't is a pretty hard bet to win. Evolution doesn't happen in 2000 years, I'm sorry. But in the past 2 million or so years our brains have gotten bigger, we're less hairy, we're taller ect, and over the past say, 10 million, brains have more than doubled in size.

Technology limits certain facits of what natural selection can do, but who's to say it can't spawn new ones? The psychologists are now having to deal with new and bizarre mental 'problems' and things that were not normal but are now becoming increasingly common - ex, aspergers, and some think it is being caused by technology.


And just fyi, I mean, you're really completely denying all reality if you think the world was 'created by god and he stuck us on here 6000 years ago in his image'. I mean comeon. You could almost be considered mentally dilusional had religion not been such a common place xD Yes there could very well be a God, but no what you believe is not the truth.

[GuidoHunter]

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You people misunderstand me, again. Should I spell it out? I wasn't talking specifically about the main topic of this thread. What I am saying makes perfect sense. Humans are curious, that's one of the main reasons we keep going forward. All I implied, people with your way of thinking won't help with progress directly. Indirectly, most contribute, but that is a given.

The world was flat once upon a time and it was the "truth"...

And you don't seem to be reading what I'm writing.

Humans are curious, yes, but that has nothing to do with the OP. By your illogical "open-minded" thinking, progress wouldn't happen because we'd be stuck on ideas that, even though we've proven that they don't exist, are so absurd that you want to hold out for them and consider their possibility. With skepticism is the ONLY way to progress, not with an "open mind".

All I implied, people with your way of thinking won't help with progress directly.

Back your statement up. You don't get to just say things and pass them off as valid, especially crap like this. I've got thousands of years of history on my side. What about you?

The world was flat once upon a time and it was the "truth"...

Yes, and we went to space and looked at it, looked at all the physics, and basically proved that belief wrong. We have done the SAME THING with psychic abilities, so YOUR line of thinking says that we should still hold out for the possibility that the Earth is flat, while mine says we should drop that horrible idea like a bad habit and move on to more constructive issues.

In our history, we've had our periods of "open-mindedness"; we've done all the tests to see if psychic abilities exist. Well, guess what: they don't. Thus, the time for that has long since past.

I wasn't talking specifically about the main topic of this thread.

Nice redirection, there. You WERE talking about the OP in your previous posts, but no matter if you weren't; you're still wrong.

You seem to be listening to pop culture too much, thinking that being "open-minded" is necessarily good. Makes me sick.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

[Iam_a_Maid]

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You seem to be listening to pop culture too much, thinking that being "open-minded" is necessarily good. Makes me sick.

--Guido

Look, you belive in one thing. I believe in another, that's human. I don't know why my stance makes you sick. Maybe something personal that happened to you. I see your side and aknowledge it but I won't accept it. Doing that would have me throwing away my way of thinking and as I understand it is the same for you. Arguing over this wont solve anything, just maybe make one of the sides angry.