Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

[flamingspinach]

Re: Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

I fail to see how you could function in a material world without proper apendages. The laws of physics arn't going to change my friend. Why do you think dolphins can't build anything even though they are highly intelligent? Are these aliens just going to go flying into space using their speghetti flappers?

They would have to be similar. They would require proper limbs, they would almost undoubtfully be non aquatic and would undoubtfully require a large brain to body mass ratio. They would have to use technology at it's highest level, finding ways to produce massive amounts of energy. I also can't see them being 'evil' 'destructive' beings either, or I don't see how they would have evolved to such a technological level.

I'm not talking about aliens in general, I'm talking about ones with the ability to visit our planet, because who the **** knows what weird **** exists in the universe.

But I mean, I suppose anything is possible XD

But again, the physics won't change. There are only so many ways to travel thousands of lightyears, and they all involve breaking the speed of light. I can't see some giant slimey 10 eyed ball of fat having mastered the force of gravity.

Oh. If you're talking about ones that would physically move themselves to our planet, that's a different concept. I thought we were talking about just any "intelligent" life forms. Still, though, you can't rule anything out - just because you can't imagine an alien getting here without limbs doesn't mean it's impossible - especially since we don't have any idea what aliens would be like.

I don't understand what you mean by "Why do you think dolphins can't build anything even though they are highly intelligent?" o_O Isn't that sort of the opposite of your point? Also when did I say that?

-fs

[Reach]

Re: Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

Well then, glad that is now clear XD

Yes, I wouldn't make any assumptions about aliens in general.

But uh, I brought up the dolphin thing to give an example of my point, not because you brought it up. How is it not relevant? It goes to show a species could be intelligent but because it is not properly adapted for a material world it would never ever be able to do something like that.

[Chromer]

Re: Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

Maybe we're just an planet in the way of an intergalactic highway that's about to be built. You never know.

[flamingspinach]

Re: Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

Well then, glad that is now clear XD

Yes, I wouldn't make any assumptions about aliens in general.

But uh, I brought up the dolphin thing to give an example of my point, not because you brought it up. How is it not relevant? It goes to show a species could be intelligent but because it is not properly adapted for a material world it would never ever be able to do something like that.

Damn - intonation rofl

I thought you meant "Why do you think dolphins can't build anything even though they are highly intelligent?" as in "why do you think that? you shouldn't think that" not "why else but [my point] do you think it is that [it is true that] they can't build anything even though they are highly intelligent?"

-fs

[TIkimanJr]

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As humans we have evolved through thousands of years of evolution, perfectly adapting to our environment. As for the dolphin's, although they are highly inteligent, there features or adapted to where they live. (obviously the ocean)
It is becuase of this why dolphins have flippers not fingers and so on. What I am getting at is that even if an alien race, billions of years more advanced than us visited the earth would not look, think, talk, ect ect anything like what we know as humans. Becuase they are perfectly adapted to their own "home" planet.

[dummyman]

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Maybe we're just an planet in the way of an intergalactic highway that's about to be built. You never know.

Lmao,... Naw I don't think so, nothing can travel the speed of light,but light itself. That is what Albert Einstein said, and he is basically right when you think about it.

[Suzuru]

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Lmao,... Naw I don't think so, nothing can travel the speed of light,but light itself. That is what Albert Einstein said, and he is basically right when you think about it.

No one said, move in normal space, that's too slow. Take a paper, instead of getting from 1 point to the other normally, fold it and punch hole through it, arriving at the destination instantly.

[TIkimanJr]

Re: Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

No one said, move in normal space, that's too slow. Take a paper, instead of getting from 1 point to the other normally, fold it and punch hole through it, arriving at the destination instantly.

exactly! I dont know if any of you read the Halo Series, but in those books they're ships create a "seem" in the fabric of space and are able to ride through it and come out of it at any spot they want.

Now that might seem farfetched, but take a look at black holes. Some scientists even thing time travel could be possible using black holes becuase of the enormous speed that it generates

[Reach]

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would not look, think, talk, ect ect anything like what we know as humans. Becuase they are perfectly adapted to their own "home" planet.

Except you missed the part where they would have to adapt to a material world to get into space in the first place. There is no other way. The same things that are here are scattered throughout the entire universe. Though an alien planet would likely be totally different, that doesn't change the fact it should contain similar heavy metals, so I don't see how they'd be getting here other than by using high technology, which would require specific adaptation.

Also, black holes don't generate enormous speeds XD enormous 'gravitational fields'. And I don't see any scientist claiming black holes as a source of time travel. We understand that near the event horizon, time would begin to dilate exponentially, but we also realize that such a field would annihilate you, and chances are you'd be fried by gamma rays long before you got that close anyway.

I agree however, with the 'wormhole' point. I'm pretty sure you can mathematically solve for solutions faster than light, and alcuberrie figured out a legitamate way to break the speed of light. Too bad you'd require negative mass, and energy far greater than we currently are able to even come close to producing. I don't even think fusion would generate enough energy, you'd need a reactor the size of the earth itself. However, I wouldn't doubt the fact that far superior theories will develop, and we'll be traveling extremely fast in the next few centuries.

[ChAoSxxx]

Re: Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
(newtons third law of motion)
yeh my 1st post 8(.

[Death_Penalty]

Re: Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

i kind of think that other galaxies are just kind of a form of our galaxy in a differtent time period. they just havent morphed into our kind of galaxy yet.
i mean we dont know that we always had a spirial galaxy right? or mabye its us in a different form of some sort? ive kind of thought about it a while but everyone kind of thinks its proposturous.
all in all i still believe

[flamingspinach]

Re: Aliens? Existent or NON-existent [warning contains religion]

maybe you should stop believing in your spelling and consult a dictionary

likewise maybe you should stop believing in your "proposturous" theories and say something that's on topic...?

people need to understand that theories are not merely hypotheses...

-fs