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  • jamuko
    FFR Player
    • Jan 2004
    • 1083

    #181
    Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

    Originally posted by Squeek
    They haven't even registered the trademark. They said it was in the works for over a year now.

    If you're tossing up ideas for a name of a major product that will sell out millions of copies, you register the trademarks for the final ten choices just to make sure.

    ~Squeek
    I thought the same, but the main article promoting this idea (I found it =o ) had comments disputing it. Read them (the second half in particular). Apparently the TM deal has been just like this in the past; if you compare the date of the Gamecube's registered trademark and the date the name was unveiled, it is just like it is here with the Wii.



    Check these few comments:

    Just did a quick search of the US Patent and Trademark Office database. It seems the very latest filing date for which there are matches today (29th of April) is the 20th of April. This means about a six working day wait between filing and when an entry appears on the database.

    That means that if Nintendo filed the day of the announcement, we may have to wait until Friday the 5th or even Monday the 8th until we see anything there.
    Nintendo claims to have already filed their trademarks. With this knowledge in mind, they very well may have. Now, you would think they would have done this much farther in advance, but look at the past:

    Hmm, Joel has a point…. USPTO search turns up August 22, 2000 as the earliest file date for GameCube, while the official announcement was two days later, August 24. Please give some evidence for the “6 months” claim you made earlier…
    :/

    I'm not saying it won't change, but I don't think we can be confident either way at this point.

    But sure do I love the ride they're putting us through.
    Last edited by jamuko; 04-29-2006, 12:13 PM.
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    • Squeek
      let it snow~
      • Jan 2004
      • 14444

      #182
      Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

      Originally posted by purplepopcorn
      Also, why would they release the official name BEFORE e3? It would make sense if it was publicity.
      Because then nobody would listen to anything he had to say after he released the name.

      The entire room would be like WTF LAEM UR DUM ROFL PEE

      =/

      ~Squeek

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      • purplepopcorn
        FFR Player
        • Jun 2005
        • 602

        #183
        Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

        Okay, I did some more research and decided it probably isnt a hoax.

        eg: parents going into Target and saying their son wants a playstation360 or an xcube.

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        • Squeek
          let it snow~
          • Jan 2004
          • 14444

          #184
          Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

          This is true. Most companies use heavily-syllabled names and it ends up confusing parents who want to buy stuff for it.

          My mom still hasn't learned that I don't own a GameBox or an XCube yet.

          =/

          Even if it doesn't get renamed, it will still be the most popular console ever. Once people start telling / showing their friends how awesome it is to play and how much cheaper it is to get one over a PS3 or 360, the news about how great it is will trickle down until it gets to everyone.

          ~Squeek

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          • jamuko
            FFR Player
            • Jan 2004
            • 1083

            #185
            Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

            I think an important thing about their choice of name, including leaving off the "Nintendo" as being part of its official moniker, is that they do not want to instantly alienate that group of non-gamers. They want the Wii to seem like something new - something fun and intriguing. Not "the newest awesome game console" that many non-gamers would dismiss without giving a second thought.

            Gamers will buy it because... well, they're gamers! And who could resist it at such a good price with such interesting possibilities? This is practically a given.

            But the key point is! Non-gamers will be intrigued by it as well, which is what Nintendo is really getting at with their marketing. Non-gamers will look at the PS3 and the Xbox 360 and think "oh, there's that stupid thing my son/grandson/boyfriend/etc. wastes so much time and money on." But that's not how they'll see the Wii.
            ♪~
            Always Happy! Smile! Hello!
            I like delicious things
            I shoot eye beams at the things I hate and make them explode! (Yay!)
            So Happy! Smile! Hello! It's a picnic every day
            There's lots of happiness in my pocket
            So let's play forever~

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            • lord_carbo
              FFR Player
              • Dec 2004
              • 6222

              #186
              Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

              Originally posted by MrESqueek
              This is true. Most companies use heavily-syllabled names and it ends up confusing parents who want to buy stuff for it.

              My mom still hasn't learned that I don't own a GameBox or an XCube yet.

              =/

              Even if it doesn't get renamed, it will still be the most popular console ever. Once people start telling / showing their friends how awesome it is to play and how much cheaper it is to get one over a PS3 or 360, the news about how great it is will trickle down until it gets to everyone.

              ~Squeek
              Hahaha, I get that one from my mom a lot, Gamebox. Never heard XCube, though =/

              Anyway I don't think this will be the most popular console of next gen. It'll probably be an almost 3-way tie next gen with PS3 and Xbox 360 both close together unless Sony decides to commit FSCKING SUICIDE and sell their console for under $499 (supposively it costs, what, at LEAST $800 to build one PS3). It would also be suicide to sell it at or over $499. They'd still be losing a lot of money and not many people would buy it.

              On the other hand, the Xbox 360 and Wii both cost much less to make, and the Wii costs even less to buy, so they'll get good share of people who are scared away by a large price-tag.
              last.fm

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              • Squeek
                let it snow~
                • Jan 2004
                • 14444

                #187
                Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

                Nintendo didn't go the HD route, so they aren't losing money just putting in this technology to run games at 1080p. Some say it's not even 1080p, but 1080i, which is worse.

                I don't have the official numbers, but I'm pretty sure they can produce the Wii for less than it costs the consumer to buy one. Pretty shoddy marketing if not. Aside from the means of capturing movement from the controller and the final unrevealed secret, there isn't much in terms of processing power or display capabilities that would make it cost much to make.

                ~Squeek

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                • evilbutterfly
                  FFR Player
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 5784

                  #188
                  Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

                  For the record: Wii is a stupid name.

                  Also for the record: Names don't matter.

                  People are fussing too much, but damn dude, Wii? Ridiculous name.
                  So I've gone completely slack-ass and haven't done any work on creating games. =(

                  In less-depressing news, I got a job for an online business (which sells non-electronic games, of all things!) which has taught me a lot about marketing online and all that jazz.

                  So now I'm on Twitter @NoahWright.
                  And I write the blog for their website.

                  Plus I do cool programming in-house that you'll never see. =O

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                  • nforcer06164
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 4772

                    #189
                    Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

                    Originally posted by evilbutterfly
                    For the record: Wii is a stupid name.

                    Also for the record: Names don't matter.

                    People are fussing too much, but damn dude, Wii? Ridiculous name.
                    Explain yourself. Justify your statement.

                    I am being serious here.

                    PROUD OWNER OF TWO OMEGA FAVORS. YEAH, NICE TRY.
                    Giant NES Controller (4 FEET) progress: PAINT IS DONE!
                    Download my Wii Music Suite v1.0, and PM me with your input!

                    Originally posted by Squeek
                    My mind says "GOGOGOG" and my hands go "wut no scru u ***"

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                    • Squeek
                      let it snow~
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 14444

                      #190
                      Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

                      Some big "official" online gaming news site decided to report on what I told you all A WEEK AGO. I, of course, did not get credit. Sad face.

                      http://www.gamedaily.com/features/?id=1000&page=1

                      Give it a read. They put it into nice words. I still want credit for this... if I'm right.

                      ~Squeek

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                      • suicidalmuskrat
                        FFR Player
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 739

                        #191
                        Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

                        Originally posted by MrESqueek
                        Some big "official" online gaming news site decided to report on what I told you all A WEEK AGO. I, of course, did not get credit. Sad face.

                        http://www.gamedaily.com/features/?id=1000&page=1

                        Give it a read. They put it into nice words. I still want credit for this... if I'm right.

                        ~Squeek

                        Lol...You mean the videos I posted at least a year ago?
                        I'll trade you this delicious doorstop for your crummy old danish.
                        Done, and done.

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                        • Squeek
                          let it snow~
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 14444

                          #192
                          Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

                          We all dismissed that though. At least I think that was the consensus agreement.

                          But seriously it would be absolutely amazing if Nintendo has this trick up their sleeve.

                          ~Squeek

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                          • Chromer
                            Hookers and Blow
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 4981

                            #193
                            Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

                            Motion Sensored Controller controlling people onscreen? I'll believe it. Total Immersion bull****? Ain't gona buy it.TI seems a little like the stunt Killzone 2 tried to pull at E3 last year. It looks nice, but there isn't any real substantial backing to it.

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                            • suicidalmuskrat
                              FFR Player
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 739

                              #194
                              Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.

                              Originally posted by Chromer
                              Motion Sensored Controller controlling people onscreen? I'll believe it. Total Immersion bull****? Ain't gona buy it.TI seems a little like the stunt Killzone 2 tried to pull at E3 last year. It looks nice, but there isn't any real substantial backing to it.

                              This isn't really like Killzone. Sony showed a movie, tried to call it a game, and then had to backstep...

                              That total immersion is in no way linked to Nintendo, that we know of. Any videos you've seen have been independant companies demonstrating the tech. And chromer, nothing substantial? It's incredibly cool, and is already in use. I suggest you find a few of the videos. It's definitely substantial, but there's pretty much no chance Nintendo has this in the Wii...As it would still require way too sophisticated technology (including perfectly positioned cameras, I'd imagine)...
                              I'll trade you this delicious doorstop for your crummy old danish.
                              Done, and done.

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                              • Grandiagod
                                FFR Player
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 6122

                                #195
                                Re: The Revolution (Wii) is Here.



                                I lol'd at this
                                He who angers you conquers you. ~Elizabeth Kenny

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