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[Andromena_M31]

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It's gonna last until the 24 of march, but those days will be some of the hardest days for me. And I can tell im gonna be overthinking/dysphoric for the whole month. I dont want to go out, I dont want to talk to people about god, I just want to stay in my room forever. Im gonna get through this, I will. It's just gonna be annoying as H E double hockey sticks.

One more thing. I just want to say thank you. Thank you so much, all of you for being so supportive, kind, and accepting of me. When I feel sad I came back here to reread your posts, it fills me with confidence and joy. Thank you so much!

(Edit) Sorry that this was so much, I wrote the first part down when I was in a very bad headspace. Sorry if it felt inflammatory or anything like that.

[Andromena_M31]

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I also should quickly say that the person I talk about is kind of weird. Sometimes they are so kind and caring. Other times they insult me and gives me death glares. Im not sure why but I just felt like I needed to say this to give a fuller picture.

[Andromena_M31]

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Ok, I said a lot of stuff and I need to clean things up

I want to say that the place of worship I go to is not mean or bad. The people there are very kind and respectful. They are people who are not homophobic, they just dont allow people of LGBTQ in. It was just my overthinking brain making me think it was a huge problem. It's maily the disphoria/that one person doing something mean that made me think this.

I am sorry that I painted the religon in a bad light. Their very kind. It was just me overthinking and Worrying

[Lights]

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They are people who are not homophobic, they just dont allow people of LGBTQ in.

I feel like these 2 things contradict eachother?

[DossarLX ODI]

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they just dont allow people of LGBTQ in.

Why don't they allow them in?

This isn't about throwing around labels, it's trying to see what their reasoning is.

[_choof]

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discriminating against people on the basis that they're gay is, in fact, the literal definition of homophobia
given that it's a place of worship, if you ask them to explain why you're disallowed, you're most likely gonna get the same kinda response as seen here:

I personally don't have any issues with members of this community, as I'm friends with a couple of them. The problem I have is with me doing any of it, as I will never do any of these things the LGBTQ+ community chooses to do.

(hence why I avatar posted and didnt actually respond to this trite shit)

[Andromena_M31]

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OK, (i swear this day has been me switching from sad to worried like 40 times)
I didnt think of them as homophobic because they (the religon) says that their not homophobic. I thought this until just today. Sure they dont kill you but it's still homphobic for them not to let you in. not to mention I am just now remembering all the talks they give about the LGBTQ.

my god... I have been listening to them for so long now. As I type this im relizing now how homophobic they have been. I don't know how to feel. I've been listening to how the lgbtq will not enter the kingdom of god, but how they can become good people if they just become straight.

[Andromena_M31]

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This will probebly be one of my last messages on this thread. I have now realized how homophobic my religon is. I always thought that they were wern't homophobic because
1. they said that they wern't homophobic
2. they were subtel with the homophobia
3. I've been in the religon for my whole life so I never questioned it

To be honest, I think realizing this has made me feel better. I always thought that questioning religon was a bad thing, so when I found out that I was not a straight male I thought I was a monster. And I thought that burying my feelings and seeing the LGBTQ+ community through religious glasses would help become more "better" (When I say "Better" I mean better for the religon) but it didn't. But I see clearly now, more clearly then ever before. I'm not a monster nor demon for existing. I just dont belong in that religon, its not for me.

I still have to be in it until I move out and get a stable support system outside my family. (not saying my family is bad, they would probably be ok with it after a couple months. it's just that I dont want to be with them in those inbetween monthes) But this has made my thinking way better. Im not ashamed to be gay or trans now.

[Neigdoig]

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discriminating against people on the basis that they're gay is, in fact, the literal definition of homophobia
given that it's a place of worship, if you ask them to explain why you're disallowed, you're most likely gonna get the same kinda response as seen here:

(hence why I avatar posted and didnt actually respond to this trite shit)

This is taken slightly out of context. What I am saying is that while I have no issue with what these people do in private, I don't want to do those things myself.

[xXOpkillerXx]

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This is taken slightly out of context. What I am saying is that while I have no issue with what these people do in private, I don't want to do those things myself.

I'm confused. Aren't you essentially just saying you're not LGBTQ+? Not sure what you're contributing to Andromena's thread by stating that. Your recent post history has felt quite bot-like frankly, although maybe english isn't your first language. Just my 2¢.

Also more on topic: Aren't all religions bound to have some amount of believers who are discriminatory and judgmental and also have some passages/values that depict such things? Sure some religions probably more than others, I'm no connoisseur of religious books and values by any means, but that's how it's appeared to be to me so far. In any case, I wish you good luck with your situation and I hope you can find a way to further improve your safe space.

[Neigdoig]

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I'm confused. Aren't you essentially just saying you're not LGBTQ+? Not sure what you're contributing to Andromena's thread by stating that. Your recent post history has felt quite bot-like frankly, although maybe english isn't your first language. Just my 2¢.

Also more on topic: Aren't all religions bound to have some amount of believers who are discriminatory and judgmental and also have some passages/values that depict such things? Sure some religions probably more than others, I'm no connoisseur of religious books and values by any means, but that's how it's appeared to be to me so far. In any case, I wish you good luck with your situation and I hope you can find a way to further improve your safe space.

This is just how I write, to be completely fair.

Anyway, it is true. I'm not LGBTQ+ for personal reasons.

[xXOpkillerXx]

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This is just how I write, to be completely fair.

Anyway, it is true. I'm not LGBTQ+ for personal reasons.

Okok, sry bout that then.

[Neigdoig]

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Okok, sry bout that then.

Don't worry about it. Misunderstandings like that happen a lot. That's kinda what happens when you're an intellectual to some people. :P

[ToonE156]

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This is taken slightly out of context. What I am saying is that while I have no issue with what these people do in private, I don't want to do those things myself.

Then dont

im not trying to be mean cuz you seem like a good guy, but like no ones forcing you to and the comment was a little pointless for the thread at hand

[_choof]

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This is just how I write, to be completely fair.

Anyway, it is true. I'm not LGBTQ+ for personal reasons.

are you saying you are "not LGBTQ+ for personal reasons" because you were born LGBTQ+ but do not engage with it or are you saying you are "not LGBTQ+ for personal reasons" because you believe being LGBTQ+ is a decision people simply make because they want to
if it's the former, repressing your sexuality due to your religion telling you that you're a fundamentally bad person because of it happens all the time, especially if you risk violence
if it's the latter, I did not take your original quote out of context, it's the typical trite religious ignorance (willful or not) about what being gay or trans actually is and is not helpful in the slightest

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That's kinda what happens when you're an intellectual to some people. :P

lmao