TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

So, you wanted to keep alive the guy that couldn't read you well ?

I'm confused.

i don't think it matters if he struggles to read me, yeah? especially if i'm town. like, why do i care if another townie thinks i'm a wolf? i feel like worrying about that kinda stuff is wolfy

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Describe a wolf Plop to me please, I've never seen it

Also where do you stand in terms of reads

Wolf Plop is like a nice guy...

..but he won't help you.

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Describe a wolf Plop to me please, I've never seen it

Also where do you stand in terms of reads

wait really? i feel like he's rolled wolf quite a bit in the recent games i've played with him. the biggest thing i've observed from him is he's able to see through some of the bs misreads that people put out, which i guess shows some tmi

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

oh i'm gonna have to do some thonking to get reads out

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

i don't think it matters if he struggles to read me, yeah? especially if i'm town. like, why do i care if another townie thinks i'm a wolf? i feel like worrying about that kinda stuff is wolfy

If you're town ?

[Funnygurl555]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

If you're town ?

idk man i really think you're a wolf here

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

I need players to

A) evaluate you
B) you to evaluate players

I just don't care about the rest.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

thread catchup stream of consciousness


i don't think i'm being scum read by anyone in the game which feels nice and not nice because i was going to see if there would be anything to glean out of if there was some split

thoughts as i'm catching up with the thread

@Ulle big post #344 http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=344
mechanics discussing will always have the input of wolves able to skew strategies, and be privvy to strat busting

Haku's long page feels horrible and is like a regression back towards null from towny early. huge tower posts where quotes are saying more than the "analysis" just feels so bad, and it's mostly just re-iterating what happened in the thread without treading too much new ground. At most, haku offers up small commentary reads, but there's not much to actually focus on.

mellon and freezin have been generally null for me, i don't think i have enough from mellon's posts to really have a solid read yet.
freezinice i don't think (to be completely honest) i have spent enough time trying to read yet this game, because i haven't seen anything jump out to me yet that makes me lean freezin one way or the other

I think i'm feeling fine with plop this phase, at least based on general problem solving attempts (e.g. #387 http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=387)

sunfan's grilling of xiz that follows actually doesn't feel too good with me, but it's unfortunately one of those things that i can't really put my finger on, some strange cordiality in thread that makes me feel weird.

T-Force describing FFA (#398 http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=398) is literally how I think of ffa, and to be completely honest, I've been doing mostly what i can to steer clear of saying that myself, because I have already large sus on ffa for leaning me town early game which feels wrong lmao

sunfan feels better from the dbp vote, it's more along the lines of what i was thinking, which i posted briefly later in thread.

feeling out shadow still, and at the very least, tone feels natural. the foot down @ ffa (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=405) feels like something they'd say based on the limited posts and discord messages i've read from them.

Haku #425 (http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...&postcount=425) fg null, with questionable reads? unsure if i missed fg reads at all, or if haku's making this up.
His following post is also really strange, because i don't see the logic jump from (Ulle/T-Force are sort of tied by fate in this coin flip timeline.) to (leaning to vote Ulle in order to indirectly solve T-Force/Sunfan.)
#436 haku also says (I can hypothetically town read FFA/T-Force/Ulle/Yoshl, but im playing with fire.) in his consolidated reads list which is even more confusing


(from plop)
will clarify that because i've never played w/ ulle or really even read anything they've ever posted from any previous games, it's more of a legitimately unsure type situation given that there was i think like 1-2 people who said they're very mechanics heavy

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(i'm at post 480, but i want to get my thoughts in if people respond or other stuff happens before i can finish catching up)

I've been attention to YoshL this game but I haven't really commented on him yet. His development on Haku, both within D0 and between D0-D1 is uniquely towny, because it there is very little wolf equity in making early reads and rocking the boat within the same phase by trending that read in the opposite direction.

That's not great wording, but the fact that YoshL initially had Haku as strong town but slowly evolved it into a null read, and now into a stronger wolfread is a heavy investment to make as a wolf. In general I think wolf YoshL would spread his energy 'outwards' and have a broader depth of opinion and rest on his early Haku read instead of putting in the additional effort of evolving on Haku, especially this subtle kind of progression has very low return on investment as a wolf strategy.

[Hakulyte]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

I feel like a bully so, I'm just going to announce that I'm voting FG until the end of the game unless I get juicy info.

Thank you very much.

That was my last post for tonight.

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

ok haku, here's why i'm not town-reading you

you're /wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy/ too grounded here to be town. your reads are very logical but they lack the depth and paranoia that makes your town game unique

like i just checked out haku's iso. it's like it's a whole 'nother person? i'm always able to town read you when we're town together so i shouldn't be struggling here

this is a good insight from FG, something I hadn't considered so far. hmmm

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Here's my schtick

If I think Haku is town, I wolf read FG

Vice versa

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

haku if you were town and i were wolf you bet i'd be town reading you rn

even if we were wolf partners i wouldn't do it. and we've been partners before

i wouldn't dare try to wolf read you unless i really thought you were scum

I'm concerned that FG is starting to look townier

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Another thing that bothers me is, with Haku, he seems all over the place.
Him contradicting himself from post A to B and A and B are 3 posts apart is a cause of concern.

This is a really point of comparison w/r/t funnygurl

FG was wolf-reading Haku because of his consistency and lack of paranoia

T-Force was wolf-reading Haku for the exact opposite reason, that Haku was NOT consistent and all over the place

I kind of think this incongruency between the two is more of an indicator that they aren't coordinating, so I might be wrong about FG/T-Force pairing.

The bolded segment is a wolf tell. Look up "concern trolling." Not exactly the same thing but phrasing your read as "a cause of concern" is a really passive way of expressing a read.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that it never actually concerned you.

[Shadow_God_10]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

I feel like a bully so, I'm just going to announce that I'm voting FG until the end of the game unless I get juicy info.

Thank you very much.

That was my last post for tonight.

Interesting...

Are we gonna see a Thunderdome here?

[DaBackpack]

Re: TWG 198 - TWGabout Succession [GAME THREAD]

Now I feel like the worst person ever if I even think at voting there.

For the future. If something like this ever happens don't feel the need to swap your vote off of me out of guilt. My personal problems shouldn't dictate the flow of the game. I've slept through EoD a bunch of times in past games and have gotten punished for it. I don't get mad, you guys do what you have to do to play the game