TWG 194 - Game Thread

[fatfuck42]

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I lolcatted the first 2 days

Yeah, I've only read the EODs and the phase I replaced into.

[fatfuck42]

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Btw i kind of think you slipped again by saying i should think shit through

You should know I am mafia

I know, I was talking to shado there.

[fatfuck42]

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Shado, are you still here and reading? Just a heads up that I gotta go to bed pretty soon.

[fatfuck42]

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Alright, I'm heading out. Good night everyone!

[ShadoWolfe]

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Alright, I'm heading out. Good night everyone!

Goodnight.

[ShadoWolfe]

Re: TWG 194 - Game Thread

When I am in these positions i never tinfoil (which is why i flash vote). Mostly because lynching the obvtown on a hero vote looks worse in post game LOL.

If I played by what I thought deadchat wanted me to do, I'd sheep every dead town every time and probably end up making a lot of bad moves

All I can do is trust my reads lol, everyone in deadchat knows me as a good player and even if I were to fuck up, they'd have to get over it.

this is hard though, and reading made it harder

[ShadoWolfe]

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On re-read,

Tonally, everything Dusk says seems fake there's a million and one times he wrote something that every fibre of my being screams "liar" over. Whether it's clear overreactions or contrived posts or even just the general tone, I don't like it. Dusk also soft!defended jessie all the way up until her flip. The reasons ranged from "she didn't post so I can't read her" to "wolves are pushing her as an easy mislynch" to "I can't remember anything she said" and so on. BUT, in spite of all that, the big ole shitfest with DBP is unlikely for a wolfteam in mylo, especially with strong powerwolves on said team. That alone makes me believe my read is a mischaracterization, a culture clash, or just a personality difference, but the read is hard to let it go nonetheless.

Bolth is like the total opposite. He pushed Jessie from early on. She was always one of his top targets, and that never really went away. He did soft defend DBP throughout the thunderdome. Tonally, though, he has many moments that scream town, even if they are occasionally mixed with posts that raise eyebrows.

[ShadoWolfe]

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I am waiting for dbp to get on so i can talk to him a bit before i probably vote him

I have not had many confident reads this game and i think that is kind of clear

In the end I have realised that when in doubt, i should sheep someone wasn't in doubt so i will vote dbp based on mikey's word. Despite him playing terribly mechanically he was obviously convinced hard on dbp and right now i should probably trust mikey's 100 percent confidence amongst players he knows well, over my unsureness amongst players i don't know.

If people want to suspect me, don't vte me you will let the chance later in the day. Let me place the first vote.

Dusk can you explain the bolded? Why was it so important you place the first vote? This is in the phase that you set up the thunderdome with DBP btw

[Duskfall]

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On re-read,

Tonally, everything Dusk says seems fake there's a million and one times he wrote something that every fibre of my being screams "liar" over. Whether it's clear overreactions or contrived posts or even just the general tone, I don't like it. Dusk also soft!defended jessie all the way up until her flip. The reasons ranged from "she didn't post so I can't read her" to "wolves are pushing her as an easy mislynch" to "I can't remember anything she said" and so on. BUT, in spite of all that, the big ole shitfest with DBP is unlikely for a wolfteam in mylo, especially with strong powerwolves on said team. That alone makes me believe my read is a mischaracterization, a culture clash, or just a personality difference, but the read is hard to let it go nonetheless.

Bolth is like the total opposite. He pushed Jessie from early on. She was always one of his top targets, and that never really went away. He did soft defend DBP throughout the thunderdome. Tonally, though, he has many moments that scream town, even if they are occasionally mixed with posts that raise eyebrows.

I don't really think it's fair to say I soft defended Jessie I was pushing the player I had cross voted, dbp, I was tunneling a much more townread player that others were afraid to lynch that flipped red

[Duskfall]

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Dusk can you explain the bolded? Why was it so important you place the first vote? This is in the phase that you set up the thunderdome with DBP btw

I was widely scumread and I trusted my ability to find scum over other players, I knew I'd got myself in a bad situation from not actually playing and couldn't reply on town to not vote me and lose the game, haku particularly had expressed interest in lynching me

At that point in time it looked like I was likely to be final mislynch and the only town wincon was me finding scum, which I did

In fact the first day after I stopped memeing (which is nai)

I posted a solve of:
Dbp (correct)
Bolth (correct)
Final scum one of you or Jessie but you were probably the town

So my first readlist although unsure on the third slot had literally the entire scum team as my top 3 scum slots

Sure you can tinfoil my slot, sure it's possible that I hard bussed dbp on a gamethrowing move it's possible

But I didn't, and you shouldn't be assuming I did, the fact is despite you considering all possibilities mafia isn't a game where you can account for all possibilities and sometimes you have two options and you just have to go with one without guarenteeing you are 100 percent right

So to me, you have a choice, lynch the dude who's main contribution was hard tunneling me, who perspective slipt many times throughout the games, as 2 different players, both today as fatfuck and before where we literally agreed in the game, that I caught (the dude literally said he wouldn't try solve if he could get townread without it)

Or you can lynch the guy that you know from his point of view has every scum down in his first readslist

The decisions easy to me, bolth is a pretty easier scumread overall imo, but it's up to you

Btw I'm still genuinely shocked that you are even considering not voting fatfuck here

[ShadoWolfe]

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I don't really think it's fair to say I soft defended Jessie I was pushing the player I had cross voted, dbp, I was tunneling a much more townread player that others were afraid to lynch that flipped red

You did defend her though. A few times. Both by dismissing her to other players considering her and in your own reads. Don't tell me you didn't 'cause I just exactly that, and there's no one else here to appeal to

[ShadoWolfe]

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I was widely scumread and I trusted my ability to find scum over other players, I knew I'd got myself in a bad situation from not actually playing and couldn't reply on town to not vote me and lose the game, haku particularly had expressed interest in lynching me

At that point in time it looked like I was likely to be final mislynch and the only town wincon was me finding scum, which I did

In fact the first day after I stopped memeing (which is nai)

I posted a solve of:
Dbp (correct)
Bolth (correct)
Final scum one of you or Jessie but you were probably the town

So my first readlist although unsure on the third slot had literally the entire scum team as my top 3 scum slots

Sure you can tinfoil my slot, sure it's possible that I hard bussed dbp on a gamethrowing move it's possible

But I didn't, and you shouldn't be assuming I did, the fact is despite you considering all possibilities mafia isn't a game where you can account for all possibilities and sometimes you have two options and you just have to go with one without guarenteeing you are 100 percent right

So to me, you have a choice, lynch the dude who's main contribution was hard tunneling me, who perspective slipt many times throughout the games, as 2 different players, both today as fatfuck and before where we literally agreed in the game, that I caught (the dude literally said he wouldn't try solve if he could get townread without it)

Or you can lynch the guy that you know from his point of view has every scum down in his first readslist

The decisions easy to me, bolth is a pretty easier scumread overall imo, but it's up to you

Btw I'm still genuinely shocked that you are even considering not voting fatfuck here

Look, as much as you may hate to hear this, the only reason you haven't been lynched yet is that thunderdome with DBP. bolth isn't an easier scumread overall, you are. The exception being that *one* thunderdome. I don't know about you, but I've seen W/W thunderdomes a lot messier than the one you had with DBP. So pardon me for not automatically clearing you based off the one contribution.

[ShadoWolfe]

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DBP claimed roleblocker who holstered N1, blocked FFA N2, and blocked Dusk N3. This is before the massclaim.

Does DBP claim he blocked his partner so that he can block someone else, like MML?
OR
Does he have the mafia roleblocker block a townie so he can claim to block that townie and gain potential credibility?

Probably the latter

[Duskfall]

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You did defend her though. A few times. Both by dismissing her to other players considering her and in your own reads. Don't tell me you didn't 'cause I just exactly that, and there's no one else here to appeal to

I said she was a worse lynch, which she was

Dbp was a better lynch because he was the most obvious scum in a world

[ShadoWolfe]

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dusk has been UTR previous phases but I’m getting more townie vibes this phase; i appreciate the effort to try to solve the game

Bolth- seems to be coming after dusk and me a lot; perhaps a wolf going after the easy inactive targets?

Bolth pushed hard on jessie all game. Like, was absolutely ready to see her lynched.

Jessie scum read bolth. Her reads, as few as they were, were never favorable towards him. Their pair equity is low.

On the other hand, she defends dusk in her reads list and only "changes her mind" once it comes to the thunderdome between him and DBP.