TWG 194 - Game Thread

[leetic]

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is shado/jess/dbp a compatible team iyo?

For now, yes. I'll have to look more into DBP's end of things to be sure, since Shado/jessie could have used DBP as a strong town member on their side rather than a partner. But Shado/jessie have low thread presence on their own, and in order to create a comfortable thread position for themselves they'd need a more active wolf. DBP fits the bill.

[flashflash account]

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great. you should vote dbp

[ShadoWolfe]

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My tone is super towny and i have no agenda

exactly

lmao I just wanna say that, as frustrating as this attitude can be, it's somehow making my night rn with how much fun you seem to be having

[ShadoWolfe]

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also I'm back for the night. just wanna share real quick that I realized while tucking the kids in that the boy had gotten ahold of the tablet passcode and charged my card $50 for a shitty minecraft clone :O
kthx for listening

[flashflash account]

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also I'm back for the night. just wanna share real quick that I realized while tucking the kids in that the boy had gotten ahold of the tablet passcode and charged my card $50 for a shitty minecraft clone :O
kthx for listening

oh no

[leetic]

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do you think the "Seriously though, I don't like the way Duskfall walked it back on his last post." is something that a wolf Ulle would emphasize here?

A weird sort of defense of Ulle

"Execute"

we have this talk every game it feels like. I would rather us all coalesce on inactive players (if there are any) as opposed to some vacuous notion of "information" that happens on a first lynch.

Talking to jessie. I want us to keep this post in mind - if he's talking about lynching inactives but jessie never comes up as one, that would be a red flag

I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility, I ask for certain specific statements because I want to know if you think that this player is capable of conjuring this specific reasoning not as a townie

i.e. sometimes there are statements that don't sound like a wolf would originally conceive of or default to.

Uhh... What? "I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility" is flaky and it just makes his interjection look even less natural

I mean what is he supposed to say, you've given us nothing

Although, one thing that does throw me off a little is that if they're a team, that's a lot of defending. Such interjections are common in scum, but usually indicate a scum-town relationship.

idk it feels like I've actually been game-solving, at least in how I'm using my brain, engaging in Socratic discussion with people

at any rate, I think MML, Haku, Xelnya, DUsk are towny
you are leaning-town but that also depends on how you engage after you dig on MML
Of course in terms of actual lynching psycho, jessie, and xiz is the best pool. Xiz in particular I want to directly engage with because reasons.

rest I'm not focusing on so far, maybe ully and bolt on the scummier end of null

Although, despite the interjection, he didn't put Ulle as town or anything. Jessie is put in the lynch pool but wasn't really mentioned before this.

shoot sorry I misgendered you earlier ulli, it was an accident><

Does anyone have any info on whether this happens between wolf partners? Past cases would be nice.

Towards EoD, talked a lot about Xiz and psychoangel but didn't talk about jessie. Red flag alert

at first I pinged Xiz for his awkwardly-phrased post about info-lynching. then he claimed and I felt better about him, until he rescinded in the literal last 20 seconds of the phase, before anyone could react to him, where he returned to wolf territory. Only more so with what I've seen from him this phase

MML spent a large amount of time preoccupied with leetic's vote on him. I agree that leetic's vote had little merit but still wanted to see what happened (I had MML as town and leetic as null). at the end of it nothing really changed and things moved on--- MML still town and leetic ???, potentially being a fill slot for a wolf team by the end of the phase

jessie has had minor spikes in activity where she commented on basic observations and engaged with funnygurl, mostly to defend herself. not a good look but apparently she might be IRL busy. light wolf lean

aside from that, iirc I interacted with Haku mostly to get him to stop wasting his time on some dumb shit. most of the time I try not to think about haku's alignment but I see no specific reason to wolf-read him and that generally is my heuristic to solving him-- light town

other reads--

ully had some weird comments that left me with a null/wolf read
bolt had a bit of mindless commentary that felt like filler null/wolf read
duskfall I had as town mostly for tone

Flaky tone on jessie, and this phase he was tunneling Xiz pretty hard.

anyway---

Xiz-jessie-shully-bolt is my current lynch order

Let's see if he actually commits to this.

do we actually know she's busy? or could she just be MIA

Response to FG saying we should investigate jessie, it doesn't really answer her question

if Xiz flips red I'd put FFA as solid red

if Xiz flips green I'd look at jessie next

regardless, jessie needs to absolutely be forced to put up some actual information.

aside from that depends on flips. bolt might be good to pressure but he's been on the upswing lately. no reason to doubt FG unless it turns out there's just a godfather left. no real reason to doubt leetic either unless there's a contradiction. (leetic's actual activity and presence doesn't look good-- the only good thing they have is the claim)

dusk needs to be pressured too, as bolt brought up. bolt and dusk could still be w/w, bolt's post could just be distancing/bussing fwiw

Says that we should look at jessie next. Hasn't shown up, so we have yet to actually see if this pans out. He's shading other people too, so we'll see. Interestingly, the one he shaded the least in this post is the one that was NK'd.

[leetic]

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Apparently my post on DBP "requires moderator approval", so who knows if we'll see it. Anyway, I think the evidence that DBP is paired with Shado and jessie isn't as strong as the evidence that the latter two are paired with each other. There are some major red flags with the DBP/jessie pairing, though the fact that DBP has yet to show up means I can't make a judgement on whether DBP is setting up jessie for a lynch or if he plans to divert attention away from her. DBP does admittedly have many wolfy moments of his own though.

[ShadoWolfe]

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The tone doesn't sound like someone who thinks jessie is a fine lynch. Can we say flipflop?

Or someone who realized that C9++++++ is a terrible setup to lynch people without specific info from them. maybe discard your shade for a moment and re-read the same posts you quoted from a "shado is town" perspective and you'll start discerning why I let her go

You said you wanted jessie to answer for herself tomorrow, yet no mention of her in your opening post?



Okay, now you're talking about jessiebessie...

I just gotta say, it's really fucking weird that you quoted my two posts back to back and then still wrote this out about them. Like, you clearly saw me following up to get her to answer, and still wrote out the first part of this? Why?

...But you want to lynch on the Xiz wagon. Which jessie is conveniently not a part of. Yeah.

this game does not revolve around jessie. the gamestate very clearly indicates that wolves are controlling lynches / pushing mislynches. that points to the Xiz wagon as a good pool to lynch from. how much I want to lynch jessie is irrelevant to that. even if jessie was a definite wolf, there's still her team to find. surely you can see how its possible to simultaneously push someone while looking for a solution to the game?

[flashflash account]

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try to strip the post of links, or chop it up into multiple smaller posts

[flashflash account]

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wolfe, why were you not confident in jess last night

[ShadoWolfe]

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wolfe, why were you not confident in jess last night

she hasn't given me squat to be confident about
only reason I backed off is 'cause she wasn't around to claim.

though tbqh even if she does claim something today it doesn't help her fmpov unless she posts enough actual content to give me a decent readd. It's gonna be tough regardless 'cause I think FG's the only one who can confidently read her, and FG ain't around to do it. we could also just sheep FG's read on her from earlier and nuke the slot...

[flashflash account]

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she hasn't given me squat to be confident about
only reason I backed off is 'cause she wasn't around to claim.

though tbqh even if she does claim something today it doesn't help her fmpov unless she posts enough actual content to give me a decent readd. It's gonna be tough regardless 'cause I think FG's the only one who can confidently read her, and FG ain't around to do it. we could also just sheep FG's read on her from earlier and nuke the slot...

you're entertaining sheeping funnygurl (conveniently ignoring a hypothetical red check) but you weren't doing so last time
if jess doesn't show up again today do you give the slot another pass?
what's the difference between today and yesterday? Why are you afraid to lynch the slot in case of claims, but then lynch the slot that actually did claim?

[DaBackpack]

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if it is real, I also redchecked dbp last night

ffa if this is your idea of some galaxy brain play then come off it. If you are actually going to stick to this then you're dead fucking meat

but you are going to give a concrete answer TODAY. There is zero chance I'm going to let you mislynch me and then tomorrow say "haha guys I was just bluffing!!"

if I'm lynched, you are going to die tomorrow. period. any it looks like you almost let that happen already.

[DaBackpack]

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already at L-1 lol

if you're town, good fucking job Einstein

otherwise this reads as gloating

[DaBackpack]

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so yeah, are you gonna stick with that red check or not? do it, I fucking dare you