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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
They're not really earning that town cred from the looks of reads lists, or at least not many.
If you want to go down that avenue, I'd suggest checking town reads vs wolf reads on Tank, because I don't recall many town leaning Tank for it.Comment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
gut vote.
Fauna
Still want to look at Apollo/Maple interactions tonight.Comment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
Phew, now that it's not 3 hours from EOD or St. Patrick's day, I can actually focus on rereading the thread.
Yes, I'm doing it!Comment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
Much like that last Fire Emblem game and Xiz's mystery bastard game, something can be said about how advantageous it is for wolves having this many posts in the thread.Comment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
To use a recent example, let's look at TWG191 when Funnygurl and T-Force were lower posters until later into the game, and flashflash_account (who subbed in) was pretty loud and frequent throughout.
Come the final phase, the 3 of them were the loudest in that game so it's definitely worth looking into players who start quiet and then ramp up their activity later into the game.Comment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
This line of logic really annoys me. A wolf can hop on - and will hop on - whenever they feel it'll add some town cred to their name. Especially after a wolf flip.
I hate this line of logic about WHERE they voted because there have been examples of wolves being the first vote on each other, middle vote, last vote, etc.Comment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
agent s
subject to change but i'll need to see a lot more from them before i move it what whatComment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
cole and flurry are next on my list what whatComment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
fauna's still in there too, probably at the same level as flurry what whatComment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
i can not express how bad work was today
i will just comment on a few points now and then do the bulk of my posting while lying in bed pretending to sleep later
i wondered out-loud if there was scum in the replacements and most of the posting was town going after town doing my day one and day two read
after sitting down last night and contemplating i feel that is not correct because it partly contradicts how i feel about the zucker wagon and my own feelings about how i was reading eugene
so my final verdict is that it is not the case
at least not worth entertaining this phase
people said they found that to be town v town
i myself do not know how i feel about it because at the time i just felt frustrated that they where disagreeing
i will re-read the interaction tonight and see what i feel about it now
i think the fact that it is an anonymous game changes a lot
i did not get the sense that zucker was the obvious lynch for the majority of the phase
i think you are wrong and these things matterComment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
Alright, looked through your list again:
Cole: Could be partners with anybody
-cole/rolf/tank
Tank: no negative partner note
-rolf/tank/agent s
Punchy: can't be partners with cole
-punchy/rolf/agent s
Rolf: can't be partners with cole/agent s
-rolf/tank/apollo
Apollo: Could be partners with anybody
-apollo/agent s/tank
Agent S: no negative partner note
-Agent s/apollo/punchy
You're going to need to better explain how your worlds and negative partner pairings were formed as you've got contradictions here:
-Cole partner note interferes with Rolf/Punchy note and Rolf world
-Punchy partner note interferes with Cole note
-Rolf partner note interferes with Cole partner note and Cole/Tank/Punchy worldComment
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Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]
Heat of the moment leads to less thinking while posting which means more pure thoughts imo. But you're right. I was more willing to give fauna a pass for the bus post because I was townreading them at the time.
why would you be nervous about the 24hr switch?
iirc they posted that they knew or were pretty sure they knew who maple was. They said maple was totally capable of playing like they did as a wolf.
Just judging by what you said on me I wouldn't be surprised if what you noted on others was twisting the narrative to make the lunch pool just be between me agent s and tank.Alrighty this is gonna be briefer than it was originally because I’m doing half of this again for the second time.
Basically, as I mentioned earlier, I believe our three wolves are in the following six people: Agent S, Apollo, Cole, Punchy, Rolf, Tank
Cole
Cole had a strong entrance but straight off the bat he essentially cleared the people on Zucker's wagon. Not just the initial 4, but the whole lot. I think if Cole was scum, there’s a good chance he has 1 or 2 partners in this pool. For reference, this is Rolf and Tank.
(on a separate note, this is me tinfoiling, but this post below from Cole looks a lot like he made it with the knowledge that Phil is town. Otherwise why would he care if someone thinks he is scumreading them?)
Anyway, Cole defends Rolf quite frequently throughout his time here, stating he does not understand where peoples scum reads come from.
I don't think I'd really call this a defense tbh. Maybe like a super soft defense because you're wanting people to revisit their reads but asking for clarification isn't really a defense imo
Thinks some of Tank’s posts are fluff, and doesn’t like tanks opinion that the fakeclaim thing Phil was trying to pull off was risky.
Mentions Punchy’s posts a few times in a favourable way but hates their d0 vote.
Chrissy time, has this weird post out of nowhere about Rolf
I totally missed this and is kinda sketchy that they called Rolf out like that and Rolf never responded to it
Everything else was fluff
Overall, there is no one in my list that Cole COULDN”T be partners with.
My spicy take is Cole/Rolf/Tank
Tank
Tank has a huge back and forth with Rolf on D0, however, no one else was really paying any attention to it. After d0, Tank more or less dropped it, mentioning it every now and then but not pushing hard at all. I don’t think there’s any reason this can’t be W/W
Not really sure what to make of this, feels more commentary than an opinion
Calls Apollo and Agent S towny
Not much to go on but my spicy take is Rolf/Tank together, I’d probably lean Agent S to be with them based on Tank’s ISO
Punchy
Was pretty against Apollo from the start, not liking the quote train he did of himself. Votes Apollo pretty early.
Throws Chrissy(Cole) Into his 3 picks for Vigi. Seems reckless for a wolf to do to a partner. Further scumreads after this instance. I don’t think Cole/Punchy are W/W
First reads list puts Rolf and Agent S as town, Apollo as scum (Chrissy/cole and Tank at null)
Tags onto an interaction between Rolf and Apollo and sides with Rolf saying Apollo should play more seriously if he wants to be taken seriously.
Later states Apollo is trending up.
I think the only person Punchy can’t be partners with is Chrissy/Cole
My guess would be Punchy/Rolf/Agent S
Rolf
I’ve already gone over Rolf and Tanks interactions
Rolf seems genuinely frustrated at Apollo for all the jokes he was making, making it impossible for Rolf to do a genuine read on him. Later says it’s completely fair that Apollo votes for Rolf for an information lynch?
pretty sure he mentions in the post why he was okay with my reasoning for saying he'd be a lunch candidate for me
Also puts Chrissy (Cole) in his 3 picks for vigi. Again, reckless for a wolf at this stage of the game.
Scum reads Agent S for his posting style being similar to Plop as a wolf last game
Don’t think Rolf can be partners with Cole or Agent S
Doing this ISO on Rolf makes me want to townread him
Rolf/Tank/Apollo
I don't understand how reading his iso can make you want to town read him but not while things were coming up as they were posted. Also does this mean that during your reads list that you've made you never iso'd them? The pairing also doesn't make any sense. Why would it be risky for Rolf to put Chrissy up for a vigil shot but not for him to be a possible lunch for info for me?
Apollo
Does a really dodgy early reads list, townleans essentially everyone, except for Tank and Punchy who are nulls. Also probably the first person to townread Chrissy are you bringing up that I town leaned a bunch of people for a reason?
Mindmelds with Agent S over his read of Flurry. Copies Agent S’ reads on Molly as well much later in the thread
I don't like the word usage here. You're saying copies like as if I didn't develop that read on my own.
Seems to ask other people a lot what he should be thinking of tank
this never happened. Please direct me to my posts where I'm asking what I should be thinking of tank a lot
Besides listing him in his early reads list, I’m pretty sure this is the first time Apollo mentions Rolf at all.
He later states Rolf is one of his preferred lynches. Still no reasoning, until he says its to help him solve other people. Seems like a pretty wishy washy excuse to push someone towards a lynch.
I explained how low priority Rolf was as a lunch candidate for me and even mentioned that I'd be worried if a wagon developed on Rolf out of nowhere. I don't what you're doing by being lazy and mis representing my play
More in depth reads list says he townreads Agent S, Scumreads Chrissy(Cole) because he thinks she’s faking being a new player???? , Chucks Tank in top 3 town, punchy and rolf null,
The play has been all over the place enough that nobody COULDNT be Apollo’s partner.
Apollo/Agent S/Tank
I think after d0 I haven't been all over the place and you're being lazy and hoping people take your word for it instead of doing their own work
Agent S
First reads list puts Punchy as town, Chrissy(Cole) as null, scumleaning Rolf
Second reads list puts Apollo as a null for not contributing much, Chrissy(Cole) still at null, Punchy and Tank as town, Rolf as scum
Leans Apollo and Punchy more town than before, stating they’re contributing a lot. This is in contrast to Apollo not contributing at all earlier. Also still has Apollo in top 3 wolves.
Loves Punchy after doing an ISO
Swaps Apollo out of his top 3 with no reasoning
pretty sure I saw it multiple time where agent s said I was trending up. I feel like you're intentionally misrepresenting what happened
Final reads list puts Punchy as town, Apollo, Tank and Cole at Null and Rolf at Scum.
Has Rolf in scumleans whole game. Does ISO on Rolf in most recent phase and decides he should not be a target of lynching.
Agent S/Apollo/Punchy
Conclusion
Always do your ISOs in Google Docs so you don’t lose all your progress.
My feelings after doing all these is that the one that is most correct is the Apollo/Agent S/Tank world
I currently want to vote between these three. Leaning towards Tank because it would tell me if I’m on the right track or not with a lot of these reads I’ve just made.Comment
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