TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

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  • TWG Cole
    FFR Player
    • Mar 2020
    • 0

    #3376
    Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

    Originally posted by TWG Flurry
    Assume you're the PI, you didn't claim.
    It's final 7 or whatever. Everyone is scum reading you for wrong reasons.
    You claim.
    Everyone is forced to believe you unless there's a counterclaim.
    If the wolf counterclaim, the wolf is dead next phase.
    You did your job here.

    Claiming without the pressure here is a waste.
    pretty much this

    at maple

    the defense that the pr is useless is pretty gross

    you clearly did not think the information was useless at the time

    you acting like a baby about it now does not make me believe you had the best intentions

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    • TWG Cherry
      FFR Player
      • Mar 2020
      • 0

      #3377
      Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

      finally at a computer so it's chrissy/cole time what whaaaaaaaaat

      skipping a lot of chrissy's early game since i did them already so let's go

      Originally posted by TWG Chrissy
      I'm aware it's not looking good for me, I'm still working stuff out, HOWEVER about the stuff with Dora, after everything I've read today I'd like to vote Dora, however I'm unsure of if I do whether it'll insta or not. I'm COMPLETELY revising what I'm thinking. Based on Boomer's reveal, and all the "contention" for lack of a better descriptor about whether it's real or not and the worlds being presented, I'm thoroughly convinced in the world that Boomer's a vigi and that Del's genuinely the cop.

      I'm also highly convinced based on what's been discussed that Dora is the one Boomer shot and that they're some sort of vest. I'm holding my vote back based on the fact that Phil(?) said they wanna wait til EoD before anything like an insta happens, and because, again, I'm unsure where the votecount's at and I don't wanna force an insta this early.

      I haven't read any post past Phil's "Who the fuck is Chrissy" as well so anything that comes up I'll try to respond to. And for Phil, I'm Dotty's replacement, I'm pretty sure. Whoever the rabbit was, I'm the replacement since they inactive'd out.
      pure fluff, contributes very little at all. i don't recall there being much contention on boomer's claim so dunno what that's all about

      Originally posted by TWG Chrissy
      Chief bit of a clarifying question for you, with my post from yours by "not twisting words is important, have you been seeing any of that?" is that like- a snide question or a genuine question to me? Cuz I'm a lil unsure what you mean when you say that. If you're asking me if I've been seeing any of that, no. I haven't, at least to my knowledge I haven't, anyway.

      Also bit of an off-topic thing but what exactly does "WIFOM" mean? I've heard it come up a lot and thought I could gather what it meant from context but I'm gettin nothin.
      someone earlier pointed out that in a w/w between chief/chrissy this would be ez interaction points. with chief flipped, i think this is more likely to be a weak attempt to look like they're scumhunting without contributing much.

      the 'what does wifom mean' thing i'm still torn about, leaning towards them not actually being as inexperienced as they're trying to show

      Originally posted by TWG Chrissy
      Dora If this vote turns out bad, I'm gonna have a second, LARGER stroke.
      i'd need to do a proper vote analysis but i'm pretty sure if del hadn't hastily unvoted that this would be insta right here. chrissy then immediately unvotes, likely after seeing del's unvote. trying to hammer is inherently wolfy, and i'm willing to bet money that this was a vote with intent to hammer

      Originally posted by TWG Chrissy
      So like when you said this, when you said like "that goes without saying" was it like "she probably is one of the people who got shot" or like "without a doubt that's who got shot"?

      Sorry for backtracking on something I've already said but I'm still not understanding.
      this is their last post in the thread. willing to believe that they were playing dumb here

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      apologies to host i misread that it was time to post

      should have waited for the flip

      if this slot is being read scum because of inactivity / replacements then eat dicks
      your slot was being read scum for lots of reasons, not just inactivity/replacements. kinda don't like the vibes i'm getting from this, i don't think a townie would be this quick to anger about their slot

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      i am not trying to get you in a "got you" moment but why chief over my slot then?
      seems a bit too defensive here imo. basically from their entrance to here they've been hyper defensive the entire time instead of jumping in to try to do some solving

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      i feel it might not even be a good idea to entertain whoever is alive on the zucker wagon

      it feels like wolves had options that where not bussing a partner day one
      "i have at least one partner on the zucker wagon and am trying to deflect attention away from them" is how this reads to me

      sure the wolves had options that were not bussing a partner day one but that's not enough to clear the entire wagon

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      in a mystery game i dont understand why a wolf would bus in this instance unless zucker was just not a great player and defending him made people look bad.

      ill say in 95% of recent games ive seen that a large day one wagon normally always has a wolf on it so i see where you are coming from but i remain unconvinced that this is likely at the moment
      i really don't like the bolded part here. cole is grasping at straws trying to get attention away from the zucker wagon and onto anyone else and that just screams that they have a partner on that wagon somewhere

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      if i am correct two people on that zucker wagon where night killed and chief looks like he was dogpilled last phase

      i feel that is telling

      i think what is left for me to do is read the thread but i can promise that isnt happening today but it will happen

      at least the eods of all phases
      trying to direct attention onto the chief wagon? given how many now confirmed PRs were on that wagon this looks sketch in hindsight

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      everyone is over-complicating the night actions
      the julian push makes little sense to me considering the zucker wagon
      also the traction on him seems too easy from an outsiders perspective

      the julian vote seems rushed to me and the definitive statement rubs me the wrong way

      half this post is fluff

      this whole post doesnt sit well with me

      this scenario never happens

      how do you know who they where? i wouldn't trust your gut 100% of the time here if its just based off of posting style

      although i think i know who someone is and that is absolutely getting in the way of reading them neutral

      if they know hes the vigi and know that a blocker exist, then it makes sense to try and kill the blocker first assuming they have a lead

      it at least makes enough sense that i can see a wolfteam doing it

      this is gross logic

      the wolves are a part of the crowd too

      i think phil is probably wrong that it couldnt happen but not for that reason

      beware the wine that sits in front of you

      considering this how do you feel about maples post?
      first post in the thread with any amount of content and it's... okay? i guess? it's a lot of words to say you disagree with some folks and feels rather fluffy, like they're trying to look like they're contributing without really digging into anything

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      allow me to clarify about vigi vs blocker nk

      if the public knows who the vigi is and wolfteam has a lead on the blocker then they probably go blocker everytime

      ffr seems to not allow blockers to block themselves and vigi could be covered

      the fact vigi shot the blocker is pretty funny and opens up worlds but im not willing to take most of them to the bank
      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      in my mind blockers protect and not just block

      everything i said is incorrect
      this is facepalm inducing. "blockers protect and not just block"? really? if you flip wolf rb i'm going to laugh myself inside out

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      i double checked op and we do have a doctor

      so i feel that my logic stands even though im dumb with role names

      however phil is right that they probably do not continue that for the long term if they keep missing the doctor

      boomer needs to push out as many thoughts as possible this phase
      your logic was inherently flawed in that you completely misunderstood how blockers work. the bolded part is extra sketch because the vigi putting out thoughts just lets the wolves make their night kills easier. if boomer says who they want to kill then if it's a town they can just let him shoot. yeah yeah we're getting into wifom here but i really dislike this bit

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      about to get ready for lunch and then hiking

      for the people who are on julian i ask - what is your second pick if he flips town?

      what is your second pick if he flips wolf?

      if julian somehow gets host cleared then who do you vote for

      also a question for phil

      would knowledge of wolves double stacking with vigi change your vote order and how so?
      i want to call attention to the bolded part because what the fuck does this even mean

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      this makes me want to vote maple

      this is overreacting
      bolded part probably important. could envision a maple/cole w/w world where there's a bus happening here

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      i do not see myself pushing phil here

      i do not see the bus as likely

      i figured i should make that clear now since i am only dropping in and do not want phil to think i am scum-reading him

      i just enjoy correcting people on rather they would bus or not
      seeing as phil isn't even on the table i don't see why this is necessary. the bits about not seeing the bus as likely and 'correcting people on rather they would bus or not' is needlessly confusing and not something i can see a town saying

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      that said
      ask me anything while i am here and i will try my best to give you my hot take
      "ask me anything" is a wolfy thing to do. though molly did something similar and we all know how that turned out

      Originally posted by TWG Cole
      it is true i entertained that the claim was bogus somehow although i was moreso lamenting how messy the night actions had been

      i do not feel that boomer isnt real now
      not sure why you would distrust boomer's claim, or feel the need to point this out

      CONCLUSION - disgusting. has not made up any ground for their slot since replacing in. welcome to the scumpile

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      • TWG Flurry
        FFR Player
        • Mar 2020
        • 0

        #3378
        Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

        Rolf is not here to defend themselves. That slot is likely to be replaced.

        This site has tendency to have wolves in inactives so, you tend to get priority despite having little against your slot.

        So, the goal would be to identify what would be the most wolfy outside of that.

        Maple is not a bad start. Still need to revisit.

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        • TWG Cole
          FFR Player
          • Mar 2020
          • 0

          #3379
          Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

          Originally posted by TWG Flurry
          We're having a big problem where everyone is town reading each others somehow.
          it is probably best then to make your list from never lynch -> might one day lynch

          force everyone to draw that hard line

          see how much overlap everyones buttom three has

          you can also go full monty and switch doors at the last second killing your top town but i wouldnt recommend it

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          • TWG Cherry
            FFR Player
            • Mar 2020
            • 0

            #3380
            Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

            Originally posted by TWG Cole
            also at phil

            i am never reading the back log

            i do not have the time and most of it does not even seem like it would benefit me

            remember i was approached to help out with the game and never signed up not even as a replacement


            you criticize i only opened the door for questions but do not critize those who refused to answer mine or engage me when they had the chance

            i am willing to try and solve the game but i do not feel i am getting a fair shake

            frankly if the slot is so dirty for you to feel that way then there is no point in arguing and i will vote where i feel it is best to ignoring the rest
            read the goddamn backlog, player interaction is important especially in hindsight. you're just denying yourself information for no discernible reason

            Originally posted by TWG Cole
            maple

            openly pr hunting in this manner does not come from town

            if i find out it i will have stronh words in post-game
            agree with this, maple looks gross af right now

            Originally posted by TWG Maple
            Where in what world does knowing who the last USELESS role have that the wolves gain anything the town doesn't?

            The DOCTOR is outed, p.i. hid because we needed numbers to hide the DOCTOR. Therefore, knowing the p.i. is TOWN advantage.

            Keep me on the hot seat, that only helps me not die in the night, and it's going to be detrimental to the wolves the longer I live.

            Call my play the grossest play, the biggest play, the dumbest play, the weirdest play, the whatever the hell kind of play you want. The only dense people here are the ones who think any wolf tries that and has any idea that they'll get away with it.
            Originally posted by TWG Maple
            Gimme your strong words now, because I PROMISE you, you're wrong.

            USELESS PR
            USELESS
            If i did that shit with the doctor, please, never let anyone let me sign up again.

            Get bent long ears
            useless or not why the fuck did you feel the need to make this play in the first place. you openly PR hunted, which is about the scummiest thing you can do

            Originally posted by TWG Cole
            pretty much this

            at maple

            the defense that the pr is useless is pretty gross

            you clearly did not think the information was useless at the time

            you acting like a baby about it now does not make me believe you had the best intentions
            cole ever so slightly trending up for this maple pressure. still don't like them overall

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            • TWG Cole
              FFR Player
              • Mar 2020
              • 0

              #3381
              Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

              at cherry

              that post is tryhard

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              • TWG Cherry
                FFR Player
                • Mar 2020
                • 0

                #3382
                Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                do you have any further input than that what what

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                • TWG Cole
                  FFR Player
                  • Mar 2020
                  • 0

                  #3383
                  Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                  Originally posted by TWG Cherry
                  seeing as phil isn't even on the table
                  parts like this make it seem like you did not read any context and went straight for my slot

                  it is funny because had you you would see that you would owe phil himself this critism

                  it is double funny since you are telling me i am missinh context by not backreading

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                  • TWG Flurry
                    FFR Player
                    • Mar 2020
                    • 0

                    #3384
                    Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                    I'm starting to understand why you post like this.

                    It's short, clear and concise.

                    Sorry for saying it was "robotic". I kind of like it now.

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                    • TWG Flurry
                      FFR Player
                      • Mar 2020
                      • 0

                      #3385
                      Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                      Boomer, Mathilda, Julian, Phil, Eugene, Fauna are all never lynch I think.

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                      • TWG Cole
                        FFR Player
                        • Mar 2020
                        • 0

                        #3386
                        Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                        most of that case is not even aimed at me and what is are opinions

                        "town doesnt say this"
                        "town doesnt do that"

                        making a big deal about the hypothetical julian clear when no one else was confused in context straightens that this is a case where i am being read scum first and proof is being searched for instead of the opposite

                        cherry also dipping before i could answer their last retort implies to me that they are not looking to get reactions or see if my attitude aligns with their suspicion

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                        • TWG Cherry
                          FFR Player
                          • Mar 2020
                          • 0

                          #3387
                          Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                          Originally posted by TWG Cole
                          most of that case is not even aimed at me and what is are opinions

                          "town doesnt say this"
                          "town doesnt do that"

                          making a big deal about the hypothetical julian clear when no one else was confused in context straightens that this is a case where i am being read scum first and proof is being searched for instead of the opposite

                          cherry also dipping before i could answer their last retort implies to me that they are not looking to get reactions or see if my attitude aligns with their suspicion
                          haven't dipped fam i'm still here what what

                          honestly have zero idea what you're trying to say with the 'phil isn't on the table' response

                          the rest of it makes me think you don't understand what ISO means

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                          • TWG Cherry
                            FFR Player
                            • Mar 2020
                            • 0

                            #3388
                            Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                            you're right that i was scum reading your slot going into that but i did not do it specifically to cherrypick proof out, i wanted to see if it held up when i went through all the posts and it sure did for me what what

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                            • TWG Maple
                              FFR Player
                              • Mar 2020
                              • 0

                              #3389
                              Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                              Originally posted by TWG Cole
                              pretty much this

                              at maple

                              the defense that the pr is useless is pretty gross

                              you clearly did not think the information was useless at the time

                              you acting like a baby about it now does not make me believe you had the best intentions
                              Im not acting like a baby, but sure.

                              I never said knowing was useless, the role is. Being the p.i. was and is useful. Town gains knowing. Yes, flurry is right, i did not think of that scenario, but of well.

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                              • TWG Cole
                                FFR Player
                                • Mar 2020
                                • 0

                                #3390
                                Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

                                Originally posted by TWG Flurry
                                Boomer, Mathilda, Julian, Phil, Eugene, Fauna are all never lynch I think.
                                if you have time please force yourself to the entire games roaster in order

                                i think for those with too many townreads this is the best way to try and sort through it from my experience

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