TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

[TWG Phil]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

I think you're trying a little too hard to support that Molly 100% blocked exactly Julian and that he needs to die this phase 100% of the time.

I'm not doing that; did you not see me say like three times that I am probably wrong since no one seems to understand what the fuck I'm talking about

[TWG Phil]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

the POE will eventually begin to close in in the most optimal scenario, making the game harder in the long term

Julian might be right though; I am often confused by what the wolfteam does

it looks like they might've actually put KP on Del n1 so shows what I know

that's possible?
possible Boomer was saved, I suppose

I might just abandon this, because Julian really does seem to have a point
if no one understands what I'm saying, then its probably not what happened

bolded them for you, Flurry

[TWG Phil]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

I get too riled up about mechanics
I wish this weren't anon so people would know by virtue of seeing my name that I'm probably just right

[TWG Mathilda]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

given all the confusion about mechanics and what goes through and what doesn't, i wonder if the wolves thought that if they killed boomer it'd negate his vigi shot

I really doubt they put the kill on boomer last night.

[TWG Flurry]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

Sorry, not trying to convince you that what I say has to be exactly right here.

I just had a hard time figuring out how you approached this.

[TWG Julian]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

phil, i understand what you're saying. but i think you're trying to analyze this based on the assumption that the wolves have the same understanding of the mechanics and rules and priorities and what have you that you do. chances are they misunderstood something or didn't think it through and so their actions only make sense according to a schema that's different from our own

[TWG Julian]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

I really doubt they put the kill on boomer last night.

how come? because they wanted the shot to go through?

[TWG Phil]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

Sorry, not trying to convince you that what I say has to be exactly right here.

I just had a hard time figuring out how you approached this.

As of recent
I've honestly just been floored by the lack of mechanical understanding that FFR has had

I've gotten questions from people that knew how things worked years ago, and its just like

last semester, someone asked the professor when the final was
harmless, right?

the professor had said at the beginning of class "The final is here, at this time, on this date, don't ask me again, its on the syllabus"

that's kind of how I've felt when people are talking about the vigishot being negated if Boomer dies

its like...

I know some of you guys have played for YEARS and the vigi has NEVER done that; its literally never had that mechanical resolution

I approach things like wolves are not idiots, I think it was you who said that earlier

right now, I'm annoyed, because it seems like I might not be able to follow that approach, and the biggest reason why I'm annoyed is because people who should know better, don't (this is more from the most recent games rather than this one, but its dripping into this one)

[TWG Flurry]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

In the world where Julian is a wolf and Boomer got roleblocked; he's exactly the Wolf Roleblocker.

That's pretty bait.

[TWG Phil]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

phil, i understand what you're saying. but i think you're trying to analyze this based on the assumption that the wolves have the same understanding of the mechanics and rules and priorities and what have you that you do. chances are they misunderstood something or didn't think it through and so their actions only make sense according to a schema that's different from our own

wolves ask questions to the mod significantly more often than villagers
its a fact

what you're saying is not impossible, I just tend not to assume stuff like that happened

[TWG Cole]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

everyone is over-complicating the night actions
the julian push makes little sense to me considering the zucker wagon
also the traction on him seems too easy from an outsiders perspective

Sorry I missed EOD guys, completely forgot it was the end of the phase. Julian is still my go-to for now. That or apollo. I want one of them dead today.

I'm surprised molly was blocker. That "soft" I guess that chief quoted is soo soo soft, I definitely didn't pick up on it. So, if the wolves did, they'd have to be a clever player.

the julian vote seems rushed to me and the definitive statement rubs me the wrong way

half this post is fluff

this whole post doesnt sit well with me

I'm wondering if wolves would bank on finding Molly's blocked target to no kill and pray that people follow reads for a mislynch.

this scenario never happens

Apparently I'm not allowed to say who the dead players are so, it's really killing my mood to talk about my reads this game since most of them are based on meta.

how do you know who they where? i wouldn't trust your gut 100% of the time here if its just based off of posting style

although i think i know who someone is and that is absolutely getting in the way of reading them neutral

you guys eriously don't understand

wolves shoud always block boomer, even if he is going to shoot a town
if you just let the vigi shoot over and over, there's less people for the wolves to mislynch during the day

maybe there was a stack on molly, but it just seems really stupid to me

if they know hes the vigi and know that a blocker exist, then it makes sense to try and kill the blocker first assuming they have a lead

it at least makes enough sense that i can see a wolfteam doing it

if you're having trouble explaining this to the crowd then that kinda goes to show the wolves's thought process is more in line with the crowd's than yours

this is gross logic

the wolves are a part of the crowd too

i think phil is probably wrong that it couldnt happen but not for that reason

Boomer 100 times out of 100

beware the wine that sits in front of you

I think you're trying a little too hard to support that Molly 100% blocked exactly Julian and that he needs to die this phase 100% of the time.

considering this how do you feel about maples post?

[TWG Cole]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

allow me to clarify about vigi vs blocker nk

if the public knows who the vigi is and wolfteam has a lead on the blocker then they probably go blocker everytime

ffr seems to not allow blockers to block themselves and vigi could be covered

the fact vigi shot the blocker is pretty funny and opens up worlds but im not willing to take most of them to the bank

[TWG Cole]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

in my mind blockers protect and not just block

everything i said is incorrect

[TWG Mathilda]

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how come? because they wanted the shot to go through?

I very much do think early game wolves are going to want the vigi to help thin out town. I know Phil says I'm wrong but if I were in the position that's what I'd do. If we move away from that another reason would be after all the talk last phase I think they'd assume the medic would be on boomer making it a waste to place the nk there.

In the world where Julian is a wolf and Boomer got roleblocked; he's exactly the Wolf Roleblocker.

That's pretty bait.

This is where my mind had gone earlier while looking through Molly.

[TWG Cole]

Re: TWG 193: Animal Crossing [Game Thread]

im clearly thinking of jailer right now

phil might be more correct then i though