TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

[inDheart]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Slight self-meta'ing going on with this post

whose self meta tho

i guess you could say self meta is actually what sold me on dusk

Also, hi I'm all caught up now.
I like Duskfall, I don't see anything wrong with storn's vote on DBP (I guess this makes me the third wolf in Lar's eyes? :thinking: )

Raeko also looks good in terms of standing up for herself towards Lar.

SHAME

why do i feel like i'm in the minority on dbp voting here, did i miss the meeting where everyone's leaving thread like an hour from now

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

i was trying to remember who you were talking about here:



which looks like it's more about your read on storn and also talks about your mml read

It me saying storn commented on my read on MML regarding lynch low posters

I then talk about storn going on to lynch a low poster

[Charu]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Personally, I think the most suspect thing here is Dusk finding storn cool but MML not cool, but that could just be different culture from a different site.

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

And as I was typing that, another player is calling MML's thing as suspect.

Oh boi

Who do you think we should be lynching instead?

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Personally, I think the most suspect thing here is Dusk finding storn cool but MML not cool, but that could just be different culture from a different site.

What is suspect?

[Charu]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

What is suspect?

Labeling storn as town

Labeling MML as wolf (or at least suspect)

I'm just reading the conflict and it just feels like the same thing. Except one of them was aggressive while the other was "mmm... I'll do that too and tell you why, please don't mind me!"

...

If I'm reading too much into it, then oops.

[Duskfall]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Labeling storn as town

Labeling MML as wolf (or at least suspect)

I'm just reading the conflict and it just feels like the same thing. Except one of them was aggressive while the other was "mmm... I'll do that too and tell you why, please don't mind me!"

...

If I'm reading too much into it, then oops.

Yeah I have explained why a few times:

The fact storn did it after I already said it is scummy completely changes the context. It is not necessarily the action that is scummy it is the mindset behind it.

So for me two people can do the same thing and it means completely different things, that is what forms meta.

Example if I scumread someone and push, then someone votes the same and sheeps then the sheeping person doesn't get the same townread for my good push. They may have done the same thing, but the context is now completely different and so the read formed on them should (or can be) different.

Storn is towny imo for placing a vote on a player despite the fact I might scumread him for it

[Charu]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Who do you think we should be lynching instead?

And to answer this:

idk, lol

Maybe Funnygurl555 for memes and to get her back from that meme lynch on T-Force(TWGma) the last time they both played together.

[inDheart]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

I believe MML just didn't explain his vote clearly. Yes, it's clear he has a disdain for low/no posters. I agree that it's a FFRTWG problem and it often hinders town from actually playing the game, but I believe he also is voting their because of last game backpack did something similar.

My memory is apparently awful, because I don't remember what backpack did, but I know it made me go "why in the world did wolf backpack make that series of posts?" It made no sense to me and I labeled him forever town due to it.

Point is: he was a wolf in that game just by not posting majority of the day except near EoD's.

...I feel like this is an irrelevant tangent in regards to DBP, but I believe it's relevant to MML at the moment in this game. It's why when I saw him vote DBP, I assumed it was more of a "meta" reason than what others seem to be taking it as.

iunno if this squares with mml saying the vote can move though

re: dbp it's actually an even wider pattern than that with the streak he's been on (champs finals, etc)

like his job stuff is real and that's why i wanted to bring that into thread, and i want to say i won't get played by him coming in to MaNiPuLaTe TiMe later, but i still think people were pretty early getting onto him for just a lack of anything, when if you're expecting him to behave the same way, that lack is gonna be there for a while

[inDheart]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

i like how i mentioned champs finals but not the game where we got swept because zenith fakeclaimed cop

now that's repression

[Charu]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Storn is towny imo for placing a vote on a player despite the fact I might scumread him for it

I see...

[inDheart]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

It me saying storn commented on my read on MML regarding lynch low posters

I then talk about storn going on to lynch a low poster

:thumb:

Personally, I think the most suspect thing here is Dusk finding storn cool but MML not cool, but that could just be different culture from a different site.

i can see it being cultural maybe, "i think wolves would be more self-aware than that" is definitely something that crosses my mind now and again

[TWGma]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

whose self meta tho

i guess you could say self meta is actually what sold me on dusk

For what it's worth, I may be misinterpreting the post, but I thought it was Dusk's self-meta.

Re-reading, I see I was wrong and that Dusk was referring to storn in that post.
For some reason I thought Dusk was referring to themself (apologies, I don't know your preferred pronouns) when talking about ' "yes that is an ok reason to sr someone" to me, then going "also i am going to do what the person you scumread just did" '

My b.

Doesn't really change how I feel about it though.

[TWGma]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Personally, I think the most suspect thing here is Dusk finding storn cool but MML not cool, but that could just be different culture from a different site.

Storn gave a reason as to why DBP specifcally though, whereas Lar kind of left it to be wide open, no?

Like, "here are X amount of people to look at and I'm just gonna pick the bottom" vs. "this is similar to what this player pulled in game Y and this was their alignment".

[TWGma]

Re: TWG 191: Don't Trust Your Mentor - Game Thread

Idk, I get where Dusk is coming from. From their perspective, would a wolf storn - or any wolf - be so bold as to go up to them and say, "you know, I see what you're saying, but I'm gonna throw it right back and vote them anyway.
NYEH"